Submitted by Robert P. on Wed, 10/15/2008 - 8:06pm.
He repeated himself three times in the first sentence. Then, the Freddie Mae thing.
"You could say, 'Look, is this guy, Laden, really the bad guy that's depicted?' Most of us have never heard of him before."John McCain, following Clinton's strikes on al Qaeda camps
Jesus Swept ticked me off. Too short. I loved the characters and then POOF it was over.
-me
Submitted by Robert P. on Wed, 10/15/2008 - 8:08pm.
Basically, McCain wants to give the banks full price when the houses are only worth 3/4 price.
"You could say, 'Look, is this guy, Laden, really the bad guy that's depicted?' Most of us have never heard of him before."John McCain, following Clinton's strikes on al Qaeda camps
Jesus Swept ticked me off. Too short. I loved the characters and then POOF it was over.
-me
Submitted by Robert P. on Wed, 10/15/2008 - 8:25pm.
McCain is being aggressive.
"You could say, 'Look, is this guy, Laden, really the bad guy that's depicted?' Most of us have never heard of him before."John McCain, following Clinton's strikes on al Qaeda camps
Jesus Swept ticked me off. Too short. I loved the characters and then POOF it was over.
-me
Submitted by Robert P. on Wed, 10/15/2008 - 8:26pm.
a terrorist.
"You could say, 'Look, is this guy, Laden, really the bad guy that's depicted?' Most of us have never heard of him before."John McCain, following Clinton's strikes on al Qaeda camps
Jesus Swept ticked me off. Too short. I loved the characters and then POOF it was over.
-me
Submitted by Robert P. on Wed, 10/15/2008 - 8:51pm.
the problem is most people will watch the debate and NOT the fact checking. If you are willing to lie, you get a bump.
"You could say, 'Look, is this guy, Laden, really the bad guy that's depicted?' Most of us have never heard of him before."John McCain, following Clinton's strikes on al Qaeda camps
Jesus Swept ticked me off. Too short. I loved the characters and then POOF it was over.
-me
Submitted by C. Dancy II - TPA on Wed, 10/15/2008 - 8:42pm.
and with an attitude. It is sad he must try to discredit Obama. Hope he do not have a stroke in the process.
"I swore never to be silent whenever human beings endure suffering and humiliation. We must always take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented." - Elie Weisel
"I swore never to be silent whenever human beings endure suffering and humiliation. We must always take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented." - Elie Weisel
Submitted by Robert P. on Wed, 10/15/2008 - 8:43pm.
Awesome, that's what I want is a person who quits when the going gets tough.
"You could say, 'Look, is this guy, Laden, really the bad guy that's depicted?' Most of us have never heard of him before."John McCain, following Clinton's strikes on al Qaeda camps
Jesus Swept ticked me off. Too short. I loved the characters and then POOF it was over.
-me
Submitted by Robert P. on Wed, 10/15/2008 - 8:43pm.
"You could say, 'Look, is this guy, Laden, really the bad guy that's depicted?' Most of us have never heard of him before."John McCain, following Clinton's strikes on al Qaeda camps
Jesus Swept ticked me off. Too short. I loved the characters and then POOF it was over.
-me
Submitted by C. Dancy II - TPA on Wed, 10/15/2008 - 8:44pm.
he is a Maverick. I haven't heard not one woman say she was a role model to them. Oh well.
"I swore never to be silent whenever human beings endure suffering and humiliation. We must always take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented." - Elie Weisel
"I swore never to be silent whenever human beings endure suffering and humiliation. We must always take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented." - Elie Weisel
I know all too well the challenges that Sarah Palin will face raising a child with special needs. However, to say she understands it better than anyone is a slap in the face to those of us who have been raising children with special needs for years, decades.
Submitted by Robert P. on Wed, 10/15/2008 - 8:49pm.
"You could say, 'Look, is this guy, Laden, really the bad guy that's depicted?' Most of us have never heard of him before."John McCain, following Clinton's strikes on al Qaeda camps
Jesus Swept ticked me off. Too short. I loved the characters and then POOF it was over.
-me
Submitted by Robert P. on Wed, 10/15/2008 - 8:49pm.
The sheeple will follow his "strong" stances, never mind that they are complete bullshit. My wife, who is a normal resident, votes but doesn't pay attention to daily politics keeps asking 'What are they talking about?' Like ACORN and Ayers, that entire thing went over her head.
"You could say, 'Look, is this guy, Laden, really the bad guy that's depicted?' Most of us have never heard of him before."John McCain, following Clinton's strikes on al Qaeda camps
Jesus Swept ticked me off. Too short. I loved the characters and then POOF it was over.
-me
Submitted by Robert P. on Wed, 10/15/2008 - 8:51pm.
"You could say, 'Look, is this guy, Laden, really the bad guy that's depicted?' Most of us have never heard of him before."John McCain, following Clinton's strikes on al Qaeda camps
Jesus Swept ticked me off. Too short. I loved the characters and then POOF it was over.
-me
Submitted by Betsy Muse on Wed, 10/15/2008 - 9:00pm.
men bounced around on the ceiling for a while there too. McCain is slowly rising in their esteem as well on this answer. Oh...the $5000 tax credit just bottomed out and women are in the negative on the Joe the plumber mention.
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Submitted by Robert P. on Wed, 10/15/2008 - 9:01pm.
"You could say, 'Look, is this guy, Laden, really the bad guy that's depicted?' Most of us have never heard of him before."John McCain, following Clinton's strikes on al Qaeda camps
Jesus Swept ticked me off. Too short. I loved the characters and then POOF it was over.
-me
Submitted by Robert P. on Wed, 10/15/2008 - 9:01pm.
"You could say, 'Look, is this guy, Laden, really the bad guy that's depicted?' Most of us have never heard of him before."John McCain, following Clinton's strikes on al Qaeda camps
Jesus Swept ticked me off. Too short. I loved the characters and then POOF it was over.
-me
Submitted by Robert P. on Wed, 10/15/2008 - 9:04pm.
John's plan will result in businesses dropping their insurance. John gives you $5000, but you'll be forced to pay $12,000. What are you going to do?
Wait, McCain is back to the Obama wants to spread the wealth?
"You could say, 'Look, is this guy, Laden, really the bad guy that's depicted?' Most of us have never heard of him before."John McCain, following Clinton's strikes on al Qaeda camps
Jesus Swept ticked me off. Too short. I loved the characters and then POOF it was over.
-me
Submitted by Robert P. on Wed, 10/15/2008 - 9:18pm.
"You could say, 'Look, is this guy, Laden, really the bad guy that's depicted?' Most of us have never heard of him before."John McCain, following Clinton's strikes on al Qaeda camps
Jesus Swept ticked me off. Too short. I loved the characters and then POOF it was over.
-me
Submitted by Robert P. on Wed, 10/15/2008 - 9:18pm.
"You could say, 'Look, is this guy, Laden, really the bad guy that's depicted?' Most of us have never heard of him before."John McCain, following Clinton's strikes on al Qaeda camps
Jesus Swept ticked me off. Too short. I loved the characters and then POOF it was over.
-me
Submitted by Betsy Muse on Wed, 10/15/2008 - 9:19pm.
from Greenberg, Quinlan, Rosner if y'all want to hang around. I"ll post them here. My prediction is that more people will see John McCain as having done better this debate based on his early answers....unless, of course, they have been completely turned off by his recitation of talking points during the rest of the debate.
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Submitted by Robert P. on Wed, 10/15/2008 - 9:21pm.
Like someone with a political science degree working in local government doing a horizontal transition into an American Government class.
"You could say, 'Look, is this guy, Laden, really the bad guy that's depicted?' Most of us have never heard of him before."John McCain, following Clinton's strikes on al Qaeda camps
Jesus Swept ticked me off. Too short. I loved the characters and then POOF it was over.
-me
Submitted by Robert P. on Wed, 10/15/2008 - 9:22pm.
I think these are good points.
"You could say, 'Look, is this guy, Laden, really the bad guy that's depicted?' Most of us have never heard of him before."John McCain, following Clinton's strikes on al Qaeda camps
Jesus Swept ticked me off. Too short. I loved the characters and then POOF it was over.
-me
Submitted by Robert P. on Wed, 10/15/2008 - 9:24pm.
"You could say, 'Look, is this guy, Laden, really the bad guy that's depicted?' Most of us have never heard of him before."John McCain, following Clinton's strikes on al Qaeda camps
Jesus Swept ticked me off. Too short. I loved the characters and then POOF it was over.
-me
Nothing new from Obama. I don't think that his proposals are comprehensive enough, but education is tough to reform from the federal level.
McCain didn't seem to comfortable delivering that "civil rights battle of the 21st century" line. His allusion to charters in New Orleans and New York is faulty. I was just at an AMAZING charter school in New Orleans, but overall their whole system is charters and the system as a whole isn't any better than before.
His idea that troops should become teachers without examinations or certification... Why would that be good? Don't we want qualified teachers? If they can't pass tests, their kids won't pass tests.
I like Obama's trade off of higher teacher pay for more teacher accountability.
Washington vouchers: 9000 D.C. parents requested vouchers because their schools sucked. If they had good schools, they wouldn't need vouchers. They didn't want the vouchers just for the sake of having vouchers. And where were the kids going to go? There weren't enough good schools to serve 9000 student transfers.
I need to look up what the DC superintendent has said about vouchers...
Submitted by gregflynn on Wed, 10/15/2008 - 9:31pm.
There is a Troops to Teachers program but even rocket scientists need training/certification to deal with the middle school and high school environment.
Submitted by Robert P. on Wed, 10/15/2008 - 9:31pm.
"You could say, 'Look, is this guy, Laden, really the bad guy that's depicted?' Most of us have never heard of him before."John McCain, following Clinton's strikes on al Qaeda camps
Jesus Swept ticked me off. Too short. I loved the characters and then POOF it was over.
-me
"You could say, 'Look, is this guy, Laden, really the bad guy that's depicted?' Most of us have never heard of him before."John McCain, following Clinton's strikes on al Qaeda camps
Jesus Swept ticked me off. Too short. I loved the characters and then POOF it was over.
-me
Submitted by momoaizo on Wed, 10/15/2008 - 9:48pm.
McCain came off as desparate. Although Obama didn't hit it out of the park, he still tried to stay on message and steer the conversation to the issues. It seemed that McCain took way too many detours.
No matter that patriotism is too often the refuge of scoundrels. Dissent, rebellion, and all-around hell-raising remain the true duty of patriots.
Submitted by Robert P. on Wed, 10/15/2008 - 9:52pm.
Three people made up their minds, Obama for all 3. All of them hated Joe the Plumber and Ayers/Acorn.
"You could say, 'Look, is this guy, Laden, really the bad guy that's depicted?' Most of us have never heard of him before."John McCain, following Clinton's strikes on al Qaeda camps
Jesus Swept ticked me off. Too short. I loved the characters and then POOF it was over.
-me
Submitted by Betsy Muse on Wed, 10/15/2008 - 10:08pm.
Dial groups held in Denver, Colorado.
Stan Greenberg: Results looked more decisive than the last two.
NOthing that indicates
2:1 Obama - coming from undecided voters with a McCain leaning
At beginning McCain was considered favorably at beginning by 20 points - Obama even warm/cool and McCain warm/cool +20
at end Obama 72/22 (+50) when at beginning he had been 42/42 warm cool.....and McCain went down 18 points in warm/cool +2
McCain made a little headway in energy and differentiating from Bush
Has what it takes to be president predebate 38% obama does, 50% does not - at end 50% did and 34% did not
trust to make the right decisions 30% before 48 %after
too liberal - 48% pre tp 40% post
Big gains for Obama - share your values - Obama won by 24 points
Big gain for Obama handling financial crisis 50 - 20 for Obama at end of debate
He got huge marks on education
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Submitted by momoaizo on Wed, 10/15/2008 - 10:12pm.
concerning Lilly Ledbetter the woman went to the Supreme Court over equal pay for equal work? He raced through the answer and said that the case was 20 years past the statue of limitations, what an arrogant A$$!
No matter that patriotism is too often the refuge of scoundrels. Dissent, rebellion, and all-around hell-raising remain the true duty of patriots.
Submitted by usernamehere on Wed, 10/15/2008 - 10:41pm.
Obama tried to make that "practical judiciary" argument in that spot, but it didn't seem that strong (to me).
Obama certainly seemed to appeal to women better tonight; I'd keep this section as a rolling talking point for Hillary to make as she stumps for Obama.
Submitted by Betsy Muse on Wed, 10/15/2008 - 10:13pm.
Taxes - McCain had to change the direction of this thing and this would be an essential area to do so....
The whole spread the wealth around was flat
Obama ahead 42-20 beginning of debate and he was ahead 52-20 after the debate
McCain didn't erode Obama's lead in the too liberal question, the taxes question and other key areas that he had to hit Obama.
They have been holding focus groups with people who shifted after the debate to one of the candidates. This debate not enough people shifted to McCain to hold a focus group.
50 people in group -pre-debate 8% for McCain and 4% Obama and 88% undecided
Post-debate the group was - 20% McCain, 42 % Obama, 34% undecided
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Wouldn't it be wonderful if
Wouldn't it be wonderful if McCain had a total meltdown tonight?
Proud Educated Elitist With a Poison Pen
Proud Educated Elitist With a Poison Pen
Changing channels
Got to get up and change from CNN. Can't stand the "moving lines" and the team chatter. Switching to MSNBC
Yeah....I switched back to MSNBC
Tried CNN last debate.
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MSNBC
I just added the embed above. Take it out if it's causing problems but it should be good for the one person without a TV.
Lines
I love the lines. But Im odd.
"Keep the Faith"
"Keep the Faith"
Hey Y'all. I'm in the house for this one.
I don't have energy to watch this thing in public. We'll see if I can make it through 90 minutes without falling asleep.
McCain on housing
Clueless blaming Fannie and Freddie Mae (sic)
Wow, McCain might be having a stroke or something.
He repeated himself three times in the first sentence. Then, the Freddie Mae thing.
"You could say, 'Look, is this guy, Laden, really the bad guy that's depicted?' Most of us have never heard of him before." John McCain, following Clinton's strikes on al Qaeda camps
Jesus Swept ticked me off. Too short. I loved the characters and then POOF it was over.
-me
I thought Obama had a good line about full price
Basically, McCain wants to give the banks full price when the houses are only worth 3/4 price.
"You could say, 'Look, is this guy, Laden, really the bad guy that's depicted?' Most of us have never heard of him before." John McCain, following Clinton's strikes on al Qaeda camps
Jesus Swept ticked me off. Too short. I loved the characters and then POOF it was over.
-me
Obama packing a lot in answer
n/t
Joe Six Pack wants to buy business on maxed out credit card
n/t
McCain is really having trouble speaking.
If that continues, it'll sure be trouble.
McCain is really having trouble thinking.
He's going to break down later like a faulty robot.
Spread what wealth John?
McCain's Joe the Plumber answer is very confusing
He looks veeeery creepy
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Yes!
He DOES look creepy. Especially when he smiles.
He keeps grinning and
He keeps grinning and blinking...
Proud Educated Elitist With a Poison Pen
Proud Educated Elitist With a Poison Pen
McSame is worried
about his own taxes going up...he doesn't give a rat's ass about Joe Plumber.
Ireland
The used Bush's reference to Irish 11% corporate tax rate but didn't mention the 21% national sales tax which includes internet sales and services.
Joe the Plumber
Joe The Plumber's website is going to crash tonight because his business is going to increase dramatically.
I did my part
I followed the link.
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Some people....that one
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McCain now claims to channel Hillary Clinton
Energy independence? Nuclear? We have to import uranium John.
Jargon
McCain is talking shop with jargon and buzz-words. People will tune it out. He's trying to prod Obama but Obama's not taking the bait.
Shoulda run four years ago.
Came across as canned.
If you think the budget is out of control, why'd you vote for it?
The dial groups are liking McCain
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McCain's entire performance seems canned.
McCain is being aggressive.
"You could say, 'Look, is this guy, Laden, really the bad guy that's depicted?' Most of us have never heard of him before." John McCain, following Clinton's strikes on al Qaeda camps
Jesus Swept ticked me off. Too short. I loved the characters and then POOF it was over.
-me
If we had done Townhall meetings I wouldn't have called him...
a terrorist.
"You could say, 'Look, is this guy, Laden, really the bad guy that's depicted?' Most of us have never heard of him before." John McCain, following Clinton's strikes on al Qaeda camps
Jesus Swept ticked me off. Too short. I loved the characters and then POOF it was over.
-me
Truthometer
That's a petty response about town hall meetings.
Obama was on top of Lewis
What's McCain talking about?
He hasn't repudiated Sarah Palin saying Barack was palling
around with terrorists.
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Robin Hayes lied, Robin Hayes cried and thousands of folks lost their jobs.
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McCain is a big fat liar
saying he's repudiated every crazy thing people have said about Obama.
McCain is lying through his teeth, but
the problem is most people will watch the debate and NOT the fact checking. If you are willing to lie, you get a bump.
"You could say, 'Look, is this guy, Laden, really the bad guy that's depicted?' Most of us have never heard of him before." John McCain, following Clinton's strikes on al Qaeda camps
Jesus Swept ticked me off. Too short. I loved the characters and then POOF it was over.
-me
John Lewis hurt my feelings.
I look like I'm going to cry.
What are the dial groups saying about the wealth lines?
I can't imagine they're working.
Right now dial group is not loving McCain
Women are loving Barck right now....men just joined in.
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2 hours
Joe the Plumber has one thing in common with this debate. They're both a two hour minimum.
McCain proud of hate speech
McCain is proud of the crap talkers.
And tell me
who has said "Kill Him" about McCain at an Obama rally? Puh-leeze!!
Women not liking this attack
Men got a bump out of it.
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dial groups are nudging up, but kinda flatlining
over Barack's answer on Ayers.
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Tribune bosses just got pissed.
They hate being tagged as GOP. And they've been fair or better to Barack.
Women like Barack's answers on ACORN
Both groups are edging up, but women really like Barack tonight.
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Mclying is sad
and with an attitude. It is sad he must try to discredit Obama. Hope he do not have a stroke in the process.
"I swore never to be silent whenever human beings endure suffering and humiliation. We must always take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented." - Elie Weisel
"I swore never to be silent whenever human beings endure suffering and humiliation. We must always take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented." - Elie Weisel
Men and women going negative on McCain
both are negative. McCain should have stopped when he was behind....uh...less behind.
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CNN
I broke down and switched to CNN to watch the "lines". People not liking McCain going on about Ayers or Acorns
Hey....I already said that :D
Oooo....Barack is getting great scores from both men and women on Joe Biden as Pres
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:p
I'm slow to post. The answers change so fast.
women flatlining on Palin
Men just like those gams...
[edit] I did NOT say that. I swear. That was my rogue keyboard.
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wish we could give stars for comments
Ha!
"She saw corruption, she quit"
Awesome, that's what I want is a person who quits when the going gets tough.
"You could say, 'Look, is this guy, Laden, really the bad guy that's depicted?' Most of us have never heard of him before." John McCain, following Clinton's strikes on al Qaeda camps
Jesus Swept ticked me off. Too short. I loved the characters and then POOF it was over.
-me
Did he say "breast of fresh air"
"You could say, 'Look, is this guy, Laden, really the bad guy that's depicted?' Most of us have never heard of him before." John McCain, following Clinton's strikes on al Qaeda camps
Jesus Swept ticked me off. Too short. I loved the characters and then POOF it was over.
-me
that's what it sounded like to me
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Breash of feth air
Which is Gaelic for, "Get the f**k out of my yard, you thieving little bastards!" :)
Mclying said Paling is a role model for women and she has said
he is a Maverick. I haven't heard not one woman say she was a role model to them. Oh well.
"I swore never to be silent whenever human beings endure suffering and humiliation. We must always take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented." - Elie Weisel
"I swore never to be silent whenever human beings endure suffering and humiliation. We must always take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented." - Elie Weisel
With all due respect Senator McCain, screw you.
I know all too well the challenges that Sarah Palin will face raising a child with special needs. However, to say she understands it better than anyone is a slap in the face to those of us who have been raising children with special needs for years, decades.
Todd Palin
McCain like tough Todd. He went fearlessly right after that ex-brother-in-law-state-trooper didn't he?
Why is McCain so angry talking about alternative energy?
The man is actually shaking.
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He's angry about everything.
"You could say, 'Look, is this guy, Laden, really the bad guy that's depicted?' Most of us have never heard of him before." John McCain, following Clinton's strikes on al Qaeda camps
Jesus Swept ticked me off. Too short. I loved the characters and then POOF it was over.
-me
He angry because..
...he has 19 cars to run.
I think McCain will gain a few points.
The sheeple will follow his "strong" stances, never mind that they are complete bullshit. My wife, who is a normal resident, votes but doesn't pay attention to daily politics keeps asking 'What are they talking about?' Like ACORN and Ayers, that entire thing went over her head.
"You could say, 'Look, is this guy, Laden, really the bad guy that's depicted?' Most of us have never heard of him before." John McCain, following Clinton's strikes on al Qaeda camps
Jesus Swept ticked me off. Too short. I loved the characters and then POOF it was over.
-me
So we're all abnormal?
:D
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Oh, absolutely.
"You could say, 'Look, is this guy, Laden, really the bad guy that's depicted?' Most of us have never heard of him before." John McCain, following Clinton's strikes on al Qaeda camps
Jesus Swept ticked me off. Too short. I loved the characters and then POOF it was over.
-me
Brownian Motion
McCains like a mental 3-D pinball machine. Reminds me of Brownian Motion.
You are SUCH an elitist
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Arugula
Arugula is rocket science.
Columbia trade
What McCain was trying to explain is too complicated.
His whole eye roll and loud breathing is a big turnoff
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Hoover
Most people only know Hoover as a vacuum cleaner.
Hoover
Everybody else gives a dam
Looking and speaking right to the American people
I swear he was looking right at me.
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Wow....Barack's answer hit the top with women
men bounced around on the ceiling for a while there too. McCain is slowly rising in their esteem as well on this answer. Oh...the $5000 tax credit just bottomed out and women are in the negative on the Joe the plumber mention.
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Women don't go for plumbers.
Didn't they field test that?
Please excuse me, but McCain is coming off as a DICK.
"You could say, 'Look, is this guy, Laden, really the bad guy that's depicted?' Most of us have never heard of him before." John McCain, following Clinton's strikes on al Qaeda camps
Jesus Swept ticked me off. Too short. I loved the characters and then POOF it was over.
-me
My wife just fell asleep, I'm just sayin'.
"You could say, 'Look, is this guy, Laden, really the bad guy that's depicted?' Most of us have never heard of him before." John McCain, following Clinton's strikes on al Qaeda camps
Jesus Swept ticked me off. Too short. I loved the characters and then POOF it was over.
-me
This dial group is crazy
Barack opens his mouth and the women all swoon.
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Too complicated Sen. Obama
John's plan will result in businesses dropping their insurance. John gives you $5000, but you'll be forced to pay $12,000. What are you going to do?
Wait, McCain is back to the Obama wants to spread the wealth?
"You could say, 'Look, is this guy, Laden, really the bad guy that's depicted?' Most of us have never heard of him before." John McCain, following Clinton's strikes on al Qaeda camps
Jesus Swept ticked me off. Too short. I loved the characters and then POOF it was over.
-me
flat line
that CNN line was flat as a pancake while McSame was talking healthcare
Women aren't loving old Johnny Mac
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maybe it's
McCain's lipstick that is turning them off.
They are tired of the Joe the plumber line
the dial groups drop when he brings Joe up.
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CNN
I switched to PBS and MSNBC for a bit and noticed that CNN has a split screen and McCain's look compared to Obama is not flattering to McCain.
Senator Government?
n/t
I think McCain started strong
and the dial groups liked him on the first two answers, but he's losing them.
Thank God for talking points....if McCain didn't have them he would be speechless.
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is he about to talk about the Nuclear option???
Cause I really want him to talk about filibustering in the Senate...
Breyer SCOTUS 1994
Breyer was appointed 1994, well before Obama
Miers
I think McCain meant Harriet Miers
Think he meant Alito actually.
"You could say, 'Look, is this guy, Laden, really the bad guy that's depicted?' Most of us have never heard of him before." John McCain, following Clinton's strikes on al Qaeda camps
Jesus Swept ticked me off. Too short. I loved the characters and then POOF it was over.
-me
That's what I thought
I was trying to give him a break
Look at that dial going up
as Obama talks about supporting Roe v Wade!
is the dial online?
"You could say, 'Look, is this guy, Laden, really the bad guy that's depicted?' Most of us have never heard of him before." John McCain, following Clinton's strikes on al Qaeda camps
Jesus Swept ticked me off. Too short. I loved the characters and then POOF it was over.
-me
Online
Online at CNN it's Rep/Dem/Ind trends
Update: It's also delayed online
dunno
I'm watching it on the teevee
McCain is losing women
Amazing spread between male/female on CNN for McCain's responses
hehehe!
As soon as McCain started talking the lines took a nose dive.
It has to center back before he starts talking
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Robin Hayes lied, Robin Hayes cried and thousands of folks lost th
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I have another one of those phone calls to get the numbers
from Greenberg, Quinlan, Rosner if y'all want to hang around. I"ll post them here. My prediction is that more people will see John McCain as having done better this debate based on his early answers....unless, of course, they have been completely turned off by his recitation of talking points during the rest of the debate.
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Troops to teaching? What about work to teaching.
Like someone with a political science degree working in local government doing a horizontal transition into an American Government class.
"You could say, 'Look, is this guy, Laden, really the bad guy that's depicted?' Most of us have never heard of him before." John McCain, following Clinton's strikes on al Qaeda camps
Jesus Swept ticked me off. Too short. I loved the characters and then POOF it was over.
-me
NCLB and IDEA act.
I think these are good points.
"You could say, 'Look, is this guy, Laden, really the bad guy that's depicted?' Most of us have never heard of him before." John McCain, following Clinton's strikes on al Qaeda camps
Jesus Swept ticked me off. Too short. I loved the characters and then POOF it was over.
-me
America's youth
is not an interest group!! Great line...and the approval lines went way up on that one!
"your wife"
"You could say, 'Look, is this guy, Laden, really the bad guy that's depicted?' Most of us have never heard of him before." John McCain, following Clinton's strikes on al Qaeda camps
Jesus Swept ticked me off. Too short. I loved the characters and then POOF it was over.
-me
I guess I should be glad that Autism is a talking point.
However, it would be good if someone would admit that the NIH budget has been decreased and pointed towards Bioterrorism - not Autism.
and it would be great
if McCain stopped saying Palin's son is Autistic when he has Down Syndrome.
Finally an Education Question!!!
Nothing new from Obama. I don't think that his proposals are comprehensive enough, but education is tough to reform from the federal level.
McCain didn't seem to comfortable delivering that "civil rights battle of the 21st century" line. His allusion to charters in New Orleans and New York is faulty. I was just at an AMAZING charter school in New Orleans, but overall their whole system is charters and the system as a whole isn't any better than before.
His idea that troops should become teachers without examinations or certification... Why would that be good? Don't we want qualified teachers? If they can't pass tests, their kids won't pass tests.
I like Obama's trade off of higher teacher pay for more teacher accountability.
Washington vouchers: 9000 D.C. parents requested vouchers because their schools sucked. If they had good schools, they wouldn't need vouchers. They didn't want the vouchers just for the sake of having vouchers. And where were the kids going to go? There weren't enough good schools to serve 9000 student transfers.
I need to look up what the DC superintendent has said about vouchers...
Troops to Teachers
There is a Troops to Teachers program but even rocket scientists need training/certification to deal with the middle school and high school environment.
Oh...that was bad....really bad
McCain's final voucher statement was really creepy...I mean disturgingly creepy.
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Creepy
McCains "Joker" smile is creepy, my friends
Tongue
How about that tougue flicking? Double yuck!!
Lovex7
Who is going to vote tomorrow?
"You could say, 'Look, is this guy, Laden, really the bad guy that's depicted?' Most of us have never heard of him before." John McCain, following Clinton's strikes on al Qaeda camps
Jesus Swept ticked me off. Too short. I loved the characters and then POOF it was over.
-me
I am and both my daughters asked me to wait to vote
until after I picked them up from school. They want to go with me so we can all fill in the bubble for Barack Obama.
I just know I will cry.
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I'm a Day Late
responding, but I did vote today. The line was around the building and they said it had been that way all day.
Lovex7
McCain needed knock-out
McCain is a mess
Go vote
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Vote at MSNBC
http://www.polls.newsvine.com/_question/2008/10/15/2003100-who-won-the-d...
"You could say, 'Look, is this guy, Laden, really the bad guy that's depicted?' Most of us have never heard of him before." John McCain, following Clinton's strikes on al Qaeda camps
Jesus Swept ticked me off. Too short. I loved the characters and then POOF it was over.
-me
David Brooks says McCain seemed tight
He's down on the McCain performance. But he can never quite compliment Obama.
This was really uncomfortable to watch
McCain came off as desparate. Although Obama didn't hit it out of the park, he still tried to stay on message and steer the conversation to the issues. It seemed that McCain took way too many detours.
No matter that patriotism is too often the refuge of scoundrels. Dissent, rebellion, and all-around hell-raising remain the true duty of patriots.
Progressive Discussions
CNN "undecideds" say Obama 15-10
Three people made up their minds, Obama for all 3. All of them hated Joe the Plumber and Ayers/Acorn.
"You could say, 'Look, is this guy, Laden, really the bad guy that's depicted?' Most of us have never heard of him before." John McCain, following Clinton's strikes on al Qaeda camps
Jesus Swept ticked me off. Too short. I loved the characters and then POOF it was over.
-me
I'm still on music hold
Greenberg Quinlan must be having a tough time with the numbers....maybe not as clear cut this time.
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I came in late, McCain was talkin about Autism
saying Sarah Palin knows all about raising a child with it. Is another one of her children afflicted? I thought her baby was a Downe Syndrome case.
Progressive Democrats of North Carolina
Progressive Democrats of North Carolina
Autism
Her sister has a child with autism.
Lovex7
Via kos "Deer in the headlights"
Jesus Swept ticked me off. Too short. I loved the characters and then POOF it was over.
-me
Greenberg Quinlan Rosner dial groups finally on
Dial groups held in Denver, Colorado.
Stan Greenberg: Results looked more decisive than the last two.
NOthing that indicates
2:1 Obama - coming from undecided voters with a McCain leaning
At beginning McCain was considered favorably at beginning by 20 points - Obama even warm/cool and McCain warm/cool +20
at end Obama 72/22 (+50) when at beginning he had been 42/42 warm cool.....and McCain went down 18 points in warm/cool +2
McCain made a little headway in energy and differentiating from Bush
Has what it takes to be president predebate 38% obama does, 50% does not - at end 50% did and 34% did not
trust to make the right decisions 30% before 48 %after
too liberal - 48% pre tp 40% post
Big gains for Obama - share your values - Obama won by 24 points
Big gain for Obama handling financial crisis 50 - 20 for Obama at end of debate
He got huge marks on education
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Was anyone as offended as I was at McCain's answer
concerning Lilly Ledbetter the woman went to the Supreme Court over equal pay for equal work? He raced through the answer and said that the case was 20 years past the statue of limitations, what an arrogant A$$!
No matter that patriotism is too often the refuge of scoundrels. Dissent, rebellion, and all-around hell-raising remain the true duty of patriots.
Progressive Discussions
That's an excellent "out of touch" point
Obama tried to make that "practical judiciary" argument in that spot, but it didn't seem that strong (to me).
Obama certainly seemed to appeal to women better tonight; I'd keep this section as a rolling talking point for Hillary to make as she stumps for Obama.
More from Greenberg Quinlan
Taxes - McCain had to change the direction of this thing and this would be an essential area to do so....
The whole spread the wealth around was flat
Obama ahead 42-20 beginning of debate and he was ahead 52-20 after the debate
McCain didn't erode Obama's lead in the too liberal question, the taxes question and other key areas that he had to hit Obama.
They have been holding focus groups with people who shifted after the debate to one of the candidates. This debate not enough people shifted to McCain to hold a focus group.
50 people in group -pre-debate 8% for McCain and 4% Obama and 88% undecided
Post-debate the group was - 20% McCain, 42 % Obama, 34% undecided
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