Another hat in the NCGOP ring
The contest for a leader to preside over the demise of the North Carolina Republican Party is heating up, with a new entrant, straight from the heart of the Puppetshow. Chad Adams. His candidacy appears to be grounded in delusion.
We need to restore the conservative heart to the soul of the republican [sic] party. Our grass roots activists and experienced Republicans have tired of our ideas winning while our candidates finish second on election day.
Our ideas winning? Does he really want to claim that? With Washington controlled for six of the last eight years by Republicans, we've seen what the GOP's "ideas" amount to. More poverty, the evisceration of the middle class, debt for generations to come, unprovoked war, and a relentless push to restrict personal freedom. With all due respect, Mr. Adams, your ideas are no more persuasive than your candidates.
Hat tip to the Dome.







That's a lot...
of needless death caused by the Dems..
"This in spite of decades of democrat control that have led to dozens of corrupt public officials going to jail, a probation system that has directly led to countless deaths of innocents and a mental health system that has literally left thousands of our citizens in dire straights."
It's amazing anyone is left alive.
-b
There cannot fail to be more kinds of things, as nature grows further disclosed. - Sir Francis Bacon
Honest questions
If conservative ideas are so ridiculous and unpalatable to the electorate, why did President Obama run as a tax-cutting centrist who advocated on behalf of issues of fiscal and personal responsibility?
If the NCGOP is so dead and Democrats so utterly in control of our state in perpetuity, how come a truly progressive agenda hasn't been enacted in North Carolina yet?
Who knows?
No one group owns the idea of "fiscal and personal responsibility".
In fact, the so-called conservatives that ran our government from 2001 to 2009 illustrated how little they understood about fiscal and personal responsibility. Obama's call for responsibility was directly aimed at those who thought that laws and morals applied to everyone, except for themselves.
Fair enough
But it was rather odd to hear a Democrat running for President promise a "line by line" examination of the federal budget and elimination of programs currently in existence. My point is that this is not the typical rhetoric of left-leaning politicians.
As far as personal responsibility, I think you would have to agree that the progressive social ethic is more rooted in the idea of communal responsibility rather than personal responsibility. It would be fair to say that the President intoned both on the campaign trail.
Blind squirrel finds nut, but refuses to crack it
The distinction without a difference that has been used to polarize throughout history.
True personal responsibility IS communal responsibility.
And Cain replied, "Am I my brother's keeper?"
Honest answers
I don't know what you mean by conservative ideas. One commenter has already taken you to task for the red herring of personal responsibility. You don't want to bring that up again unless you intend personal insult.
Beyond that, are you suggesting that liberals are in favor of fiscal IR-responsibility? Say it's not so.
The only thing you've said that I agree with is the failure of Democrats in North Carolina to set a truly progressive agenda. I'd argue it is a "somewhat" progressive agenda in that the most horrific Republican ideas have been fended off. Those mostly involve infringement on personal freedoms related to sex.
I left the Democratic Party because it wasn't progressive enough for me. I recognize that means I am on the fringe. Maybe that's the difference between us. You seem to operate under the illusion that you're in the mainstream.
Do good. Be nice. Have fun.
James, I sense a bit of
James, I sense a bit of hostility. Everyone here has good reason to be suspicious of me considering my point of view and the fact that I work for a political organization many of you oppose vehemently. I appreciate that you even allow me the forum to speak. You have every reason and ability to silence dissent if you so choose. The fact that you don't shows that you are fair-minded and tolerant and I don't intend to take advantage. I would never be so rude as to come into a person's home and insult them to their face.
I think both parties have shown a propensity for deficit spending as long as we are getting the things we want. No one is left blameless when it comes to fiscal responsibility issues. The difference occurs because of the general disagreement between liberals and conservatives about the proper size and scope of government. Democrats tend to spend more because of the philosophical differences between the two parties. If you spend more, it's harder to balance the budget. The President used more of the "line by line" and "eliminate waste" rhetoric than most Democrats. I think it helped him with voters.
When someone says something like "true personal responsibility is communal responsibility," that's when I look at them and say... OK, you know meaningless platitudes don't count as real arguments, right? Words have definitions. Let's try to stay in the general vicinity of them. It makes it much easier to communicate. It is perfectly legitimate to take the position that communal responsibility is the most important kind. But let's not pretend like there is not room in the universe for both concepts.
I guess my question is: how long are you prepared to settle for your "somewhat" agenda? Because as an outside observer it doesn't seem like the folks here are "somewhat" campaigning for the Democrats in office. I don't think there's any question that NC isn't blue without progressives and without sites like BlueNC. You give them your blood, sweat, and tears and they give you the scraps from their table. It just seems to me that if you are looking to enact a progressive agenda, I'm not your biggest foe.
I hear baa's and meh's, but I still see the wolf.
Actions, Mr. Communicator will guide my decisions.
Not vague assertions that the NC GOP is somehow not a foe of progressives.
Even if we erase the NC GOP's past, what has transpired so far this year - a press conference, a seminar, a workshop, a bill - that welcomes progressives to the GOP?
Every news release and press conference I see pushes people away from the GOP.
These three are for the log in your eye, Mr. Woodcox.
Help Mr. DeLuca cease demonization of the NAACP.
Help Rep. Stam stop scapegoating gays.
Help Sen. Phil Berger understand what it means to balance a budget.
We're working on the Democrats.
You make good points
But I am a realist if nothing else.
To me it's a big see-saw. You're out on one end, I'm on the other. Most people are muddled in the middle.
Your best move - and mine - is to go far enough toward the ends without falling off. That's where the maximum leverage exists.
I have shifted all my electoral contributions (time and money) to specific candidates and away from the Democratic Party. That's a recent change, reflecting exactly the point you're making in your last paragraph.
That said, I'm afraid you are indeed my biggest foe. In fact you're the reason I have to get so close to the edge of the teeter totter in the first place. With guys like Art Pope pumping $5 million plus annually into the right wing agenda here in North Carolina alone, who is going to hold down the other side?
Progressive groups are doing their part, but they can't call bullshit loud and clear because of their stakeholder commitments. So it falls to people like me. My job is to be extreme enough to make more moderate liberals seem more palatable. I understand that.
All that said, I didn't mean to be hostile. I'm working hard to Be Nice these days and I apologize for being impolite.
Do good. Be nice. Have fun.
Only If Chad acts like this Guy on Bill Mahar!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5lb0l3sYBo&eurl=http://www.lewrockwell.c...
Wait! I want to be head of the GOP!
Because I have a WarCraft cheat and the Undead can totally win if you amass enough gold.
Meaning...
Can this jerkwad raise money?
Which tool can do it better than Daves is all that matters.
Not how crazy they are.