Cal Cunningham Schools Richard Burr
Just got my grubby little paws on the actual letter that Cal Cunningham sent to Richard Burr. Deciding against a political confrontation at this stage isn't necessarily a sign Cal is avoiding debate. It may be the only legal thing he can do. Entering the debate might just signal to the FEC that Cunningham has moved from the "testing the waters" stage to the actual candidate stage. This move means filing certain paperwork that isn't required prior to taking the plunge.
Burr tried to call Cal's hand and Cal was smart enough to politely decline.

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Burr is playing games
...oh...and Cal is right...there's no future in the whole snuff/chew mess.
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Great letter
Cunningham is smart as a whip ... and likely the person Burr most fears right now.
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This all depends on next year
If there was an election today, I'm thinking that Burr would win in NC. It will be up to national dems to get things done and to get good press and to have a disuasive atmosphere in NC for Burr to be beaten by what has to be a very good democratic candidate. After all, North Carolina has a lot of moderate demos and independants that will vote for republicans unless there is a lot of negatives against Burr et al. It's for democrats to lose, not for Burr to win. I can see a huge amount of campaign money coming into our state in support for a U.S. democratic senatoral candidate in this effort. It will take that, no doubt, but if democrats are seen as weak and not in control and not "on the side" of mainstream America, Burr wins, hands down, regardless of his many negatives.
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Yep
Plus turnout will be abysmal unless a candidate can stir up some passion. The younger voters won't likely emerge as a big factor ... mostly it'll be older, scared voters who have been swallowing Republican lies so long they think it's beef instead of bull.
It'll be interesting to see how the ground games unfold. You can bet that Art Pope and his minions will be resurrecting Republicans for a Legislative Majority with a focus on carving out some seats in the House. They'll walk right up to the line of illegal, spewing lies to beat the band ... and it'll work. Those tactics got Hairdresser Boylan elected a few years back. People will believe anything.
It'll take a charismatic alternative to Burr to oust him.
Can Etheridge do it? I doubt it. He's not very far from Burr on many policy issues ... just happens to have a D after his name. He could win the primary, I'm sure, but would struggle in the general, in my view.
Elaine Marshall? Hard to say. Her tentativeness in choosing to run or not hasn't given me a lot of confidence. She too could win the primary, though. Good name recognition ... a sensible woman.
Ken Lewis? He'd have to have a killer ground game and might just be able to pull that off. Black voters in North Carolina can raise quite a bit of noise when they want to ... but will they go to the mat for Ken in a primary? Primary turnout will be pathetic, if the past is any indication of the future.
Kevin Foy is considering ... the former mayor of Chapel Hill, but he'd have a hard time winning the primary or the general. He'd be that Chapel Hill liberal ... a plus in my book, but a negative in many other parts of the state.
Cal Cunningham? He maybe sparkly enough to stir up some enthusiasm, which would be a real plus, both in the primary and in the general.
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All that said, you're right about the national Democratic brand. Obama's star will tarnish more and more: the quagmire of Afghanistan, continuance of extraordinary rendition, billionaire bailouts. It's going to be rough.
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Excellent analysis...James
Just exactly right. I might bash you sometimes, but you are one intelligent guy !!!!!!!
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I never feel bashed
Not by you anyway. Maybe I'm too dense to notice? Make sure you let me know next time:
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Okay got ya
:)
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I'm shocked you think that FoxTrot
So Burr could win?
Huh? I haven't said already like 5 or 6 times how I don't trust you already have I FoxTrot?
Not that James is a child that can be made of...just sayin'
Look above.
Not to be confused with megatron.
I was waiting for it
:)
My night is complete now.
Thanks, met.
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Welcome back
Bitch.
My night is complete now.
OMG
What the heck was THAT all about?????
Am I a "bitch" now?
Maybe it wasn't for me just fell that way. Don't know.
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Just your specTACular performance Foxtrot
Carry on. It was a pleasure to watch.
Do give James a tissue on your way out.
Crazy dude
Chill.
Not to be confused with megatron.
Hmmmm
Now I am having "trusting" problems. Met, are you "double-posting" here?
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I don't trust you
But I don't trust LP lurkers more.
Get over it. He's on your side apparently.
Not to be confused with megatron.
I used to enjoy reading the give and take between the bloggers
but I'm getting a little tired of reading this back-and-forth crap between Megatron and Foxtrot. Maybe it's supposed to be funny, but I'm sorry, I don't get it. I guess I'll just start skipping over it and spend my time on something more informative.
Sweet Union Dem
Sometimes I think they're the same person
:)
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Freedom of Speech
Gotta love our "Freedom of Speech" rights in this country, in particular political speech. No one should be afraid to debate a sitting Senator due to campaign finance laws. That's a sure sign something has gone wrong.
I cant and wont try to speak to Cal's motivation
But many of us think that this health care reform debate has already gotten way too partisan. This should not be a Democratic v Republican issue. It really is a people vs powerful corporations. I for one am glad this debate on how we provide the best care possible to as many people as possible wont be partisan for at least a few minutes.
"Keep the Faith"
It is a very difficult issue for America
I read on another site that America isn't anything like Sweden or England or even Canada and that their approach to health care is not an approach that can be taken here in the U.S. On that, I have to agree. These countries have relatively few to insure as opposed to our 300,000,000 people. I may sound like a naysayer here on this, but trust me (except you, metatron), that's not so.
I believe that we must most certainly have government involvement if we are to reform health care in this country. I also believe that there is much that can be done legislatively to reign in the insurance companies who, in a large way, are running up the cost of health care in our country. And, talk about rationing care, just how many stories do we have to hear about how people are denied care and even had insurance taken away at the hands of the insurance companies? Our government can do a great deal to "reform" health insurance through government involvement. Yes, I know that's getting government involved in a private enterprise but let's be honest here, people, what works is what works and this is my opinion on how we need to approach health insurance reform. Those that cannot afford health care should be allowed to have the availability to it. We have given hundreds of billions to help with the AIDS epidemic in Africa and trillions around the world in the form of foreign aid. Now is the time to help our own people at least realize access to affordable and, yes, even "free" health care if they qualify. I believe even our republican friends will come around to that if we go about it in the right way.
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So...if something were against the law
you say...go for it? You have just reduced yourself to idiot status.
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Ineteresting debate here
for the most part, anyway. A few points I'd like to make.
First, I don't think Burr was trying to trick Cal into breaking any finance laws with the debate offer.
Burr, imo, was testing to see how serious Cal is about running and trying to bait him into joining the race under Burr's timeline that his own.
Second, I've never been a fan of this exploratory stuff. Elections these days are virtually ongoing beginning with the day after the previous one.
Third, that said, the health care debate is hurting Democratic approval numbers in the state. Jumping headlong into it may not be a good idea for various reasons.
So Cal, who I am supporting fully if he runs (full disclosure), has some tough choices to make:
Announce now in the middle of the health care debate.
Hold on until the issue is resolved or calmed down while risking other candidates announcing/garnering support.
Announce at some date he may/may not have planned to announce anyway regardless of the situation.
Decline to run.
If it's me, I jump big and jump now.Make the health care debate your reason for jumping in. This fires up the base that really needs firing up right now. Enlist the silent majority to quell the vocal minority.
Just my thoughts.
"You win the election, you run the country." Salman Rushdie
What exactly is he exploring
What exactly is he exploring at this point? People don't really explore these days... they wait to see who is or isn't going to run while campaigning on their own dime and telling donors they'll be in soon enough.
It seems like exploratory campaigns are dying down at this point. It wasn't that long ago that every candidate had two announcements... which was a real sham.
“There is a hunger for new
“There is a hunger for new and energetic leadership – and many North Carolinians feel their voices aren’t being heard in Washington, on either side of the aisle.”
Would someone please explain this quote to me. I was over at Cal Cunningham’s blog reading the latest entry when I saw this quote. We voted for change last year and we want that change. The President, Congressional leadership, and a majority of NC's delagation in Washington are representing me. I for one am not going to work as hard as I did in 2008 just to have another blue dog up there voting against the policies we voted for last year. This sort of empty rhetoric combined with the wavering on the healthcare issues makes me wonder if Cal will support the President’s agenda. I want the public option and I want our candidate to be willing to fight, not bow down to the right.
Snuff flick
The last line is an obtuse reference to Aaron Burr, who took snuff, and to his long standing feud with Alexander Hamilton. The rivalry culminated in a duel, which was supposedly triggered by a "despicable opinion" of Burr attributed to Hamilton.