The fine line between liberty and tyranny

As many reading this already know, the NC Supreme Court flexed its muscles against Chapel Hill a few days ago, lifting the ban on cell phone use while driving, and modifying the Town's towing restrictions. We'll leave off the cell phone thing for now, and discuss the issue of the Court lifting the cap on towing fees. Which is apparently a personal "liberty" the town was repressing:

Chris Weaver Eroding the power of the municipality...or increasing liberty for the individual....
I'll take the latter, I'll be damned if any municipality should interfere with my business to the point they are regulating my fee...We are not China ...yet

Yes, I made the mistake of engaging in a debate with a Libertarian, an activity that usually produces some comical yet frustrating results. In this case, "liberty" takes the form of somebody latching onto your car and hauling it off to be held for an exorbitant ransom at some undisclosed location. To me, it's glaringly obvious whose "liberty" has been violated, just because they happened to park in the wrong place. But to a Libertarian, there is no excuse:

Steve Harrison Since when is having to pay three hundred bucks to get your car out of a towing company's lot (jail) "increasing" overall liberty? Part of the responsibility of local elected officials is to make sure their citizens aren't ripped off by opportunists. I doubt you would support a judge's ability to arbitrarily decide how much to fine someone for a municipal parking ticket, so there should be a limit for towing companies, as well.

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Chris Weaver I can read, thus I do not get my truck towed.

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Chris Weaver A municipal parking ticket and a private company paid or contracted to keep another individuals private parking lot cleared of improperly parked vehicles is apples an oranges.

As you can see, he never answered my question about the judge. Because in his mind (as with many other Libertarians), government and the private sector are not to be compared. While an act by government is automatically tyranny, that same act by a private business is just fine. Forget about the fact that voters have chosen their representatives on the Town Council, and can replace them if they overreach. And the Supreme Court undermining said local government's attempt to protect its citizens is an extreme violation of their personal liberties. Oh no, those things aren't to be considered.

It's the handful of entrepreneurs who troll parking lots and shanghai somebody else's personal property that are exercising their "liberty," while their victims are simply stupid because they didn't read the signs.

And if that's not enough to make you question the whole "my liberty trumps yours" mentality, see what it's done to a major Triad newspaper's editorial staff:

The U.S. Supreme Court ruled rightly Monday that some companies with religious objections can avoid the contraceptives requirement in Obamacare.

This is not about employers imposing their religious views on their employees. It’s about family-held companies not having to provide, by government order, certain contraceptives to which they have religious objections.

The court’s conservative majority got this ruling right. The contraceptives in question are still available. But the government can’t force a family-owned company to go against its religious beliefs and provide those contraceptives.

The court’s decision, coming in this week leading up to our country’s birthday, is a win for freedom.

"A win for freedom"? I was going to call this horseshit, but that wouldn't be fair to horses.

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I don't enjoy Libertarian bashing

Most of these folks are (otherwise) rather intelligent, and they do pay close attention to the actions of government, which (unfortunately) sets them apart from most other citizens. If we all paid that kind of attention, I doubt the corporate machine would have gained so much influence over public policy.

All that being said, in the absence of collective reasoning which takes the shape of duly-elected government, our society could easily fall back into the dark ages.

Religious objection to paying taxes for war

I am in the process of incorporating myself in order to gain some of the religious liberties and freedoms that corporations have. And as a small business with only one shareholder, I will be exempt from anything I find objectionable.

One thing I find objectionable is paying taxes that support war and corporate welfare. I will be deducting the appropriate amount from my estimated quarterly taxes for both federal and state filings.

Thank god for the Supreme Court!

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“Don't tell me what you value, show me your budget, and I'll tell you what you value.”
― Joe Biden

Thank the Supreme Court for God...

If it wasn't for them, the supreme fictional being wouldn't be "guiding" our public policy so much.

More invisible hands

Adam Smith. God. FSM.

If alien beings are watching our planet, it's a safe bet they'll either want to exterminate us or probably just steer clear for fear of contagion.

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“Don't tell me what you value, show me your budget, and I'll tell you what you value.”
― Joe Biden

Whose liberties win?

If there aren't any laws, anyone can park anywhere they like and things get settled with guns. No need for tow trucks, so no need to quibble about tow truck fees.

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"What I see from the folks who are opposing our agenda is whining coming from losers." -- Thom Tillis