Good morning, Grier

It's been a busy BlueNC week. We closed out February with the first-ever Women on Wednesdays, and a record 13,008 unique visitors for the shortest month of the year. We got the scoop on "new rules" for the NC House, and today we have a second-term representative, Grier Martin, stopping by to answer your questions. He's a primary sponsor on the Renewable Portfolio Standards bill, and is intensely interested in veterans affairs and family issues.

He should be online around 8, so keep your eyes peeled and your questions coming. We'll have him for about an hour.

Happy Friday, everyone.

New rules

What's the general take on the new rules among House members? Do you see any risks? Does the Speaker still have the authority to stop insane bills dead in their tracks?

We've been worried about so-called Defense of Marriage legislation getting through committee and onto the House floor, where it would no doubt find more than a little support.

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rules

Members are still digesting the proposed rules. Some folks on the GOP side claim that the proposed rules do not go far enough. But, no one denies they represent a BIG step forward in reform. My sense is that the rules, if passed, will open up the process and allow a much greater voice for the minority party (the GOP). But, they still recognize that the majority party is the majority because the people of NC voted that way. And, as such, the majority is entitled to have a certain level of control.

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rules

Here's an easier link

for all us lazy types . . .

Bill Look Up

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teh ---> the

Already a spelling mistake on my first ever live blog!

No worries

Typos are our fiends.

teh=the First blog and he's

teh=the

First blog and he's already using L337 sp33k.

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Hey Grier, It must be hard

Hey Grier,
It must be hard after a national campaign labeled cluture of corruption to have to deal with it here in our own party in our own state. I'm glad to see (and hope to continue to see) with your leadership the cleaning of our own house (figuratiely and literally). - Darron

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corruption

Thanks, Darron. It is important to remember as Democrats that the public sees corruption as a non-partisan (or perhaps bi-partisan) issue. And, they are correct. Anywhere you find power you will find corruption to some degree. There is nothing inherent to Dems that makes us immune to it. I hope that what separates us from the GOP is that we do a better job of addressing the problem.

The proposed House rules are a great start and I am certain you will see us do more this session.

What's your thought on whether or not the House

will pass ethics reform that will include a way of denying corrupt legislators their pension? (Jim Black comes to mind.)

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pensions

I expect this issue tocome up. I certainly think it is appropriate to deny pensions to legislators convicted of felonies related to their legislative duties. If you violate your duty to the citizens of NC, they should not be obliged to fund your retirement.

Of course

the "violation of duty" standard would mean denying pensions to Charles Taylor, Robin Hayes and Liddy Dole.

I kind of like that idea.

:)

RPS

I've been spending a lot of time on the RPS bill - and frankly it's hard to understand it all. Plus it looks like there will have to be lots of compromising to get a comprehensive bill - and progressives may not be all that happy with some of the outcomes.

I also think I heard a quote from a Duke Energy spokesperson saying they we convinced something was going to pass, and they wanted to have a big hand in it.

What kind of pressure are you getting from Big Energy on this bill?

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RPS

Yeah, the RPS (or REPS) bill is pretty confusing at first glance. And, because of the inevitable compromises that will be made, the "in the weeds" details of the bill will change. The basics that will not change, however, are that the bill will require utilities to get a percentage of their energy from renewable sources.

Because this fundamentally changes the way the energy business is done in NC, the utilities understandably are very involved. They, I think, do see RPS as inevitable and are working to shape it in a way that eases the burden on them.

Here's a link to the bill in its current form:
http://www.ncleg.net/gascripts/BillLookUp/BillLookUp.pl?Session=2007&Bil...

Is there anything "we the people"

can or should be doing at this point? Or should we be keeping our powder dry for a shoot-out later in the session?

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Without a doubt, make sure

Without a doubt, make sure your representative and senator hears from you on this issue now. We need to know you are watching. Whether your elected official is a Dem or Rep, let them hear from you now. While mass emailings to all members can help, the key is to make sure that the one person you have the ability to hire or fire knows what you want them to do.

I'm hopeful whatever the outcome is that

we will cause the utilities to invest in Geothermal and Solar. These technologies have consumer application and major investments may help the prices come down to where we users can afford to make our own contribution to greening the environment.

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I have some constituents

who have started up a company that provides geothermal energy to residences. They tell me NC is a great location for geothermal. My neighbor is an architect who has installed one of these systems in a house already.

Both geothermal and solar are explicitly mentioned in HB77, with a special set aside to emphasize solar.

How

I guess regarding the RPS bill, it seems like a great idea to name some goals for using renewable energy sources. Even Bush has thron around some big numbers. Grier, could you comment on how this might be implemented. I know NC Green Power is already heavily involved, but will this involve help from the state in adding new (sustainable energy) infrastructure ... or should all that spending come from the private sector?

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good question

In the case of RPS, the state sets the goals and gives the utilities flexibility on which renewable sources they want to derive energy from. One small exception to this is a "set aside" for solar energy to give extra emphasis to this source.

No state appropriations of money are involved.

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Hi Rep. Martin

I'm in Johnston, so I'm not technically your constituent, but I'm interested in state legislation that would give local governments more revenue raising options ... beyond property taxes and half-cent sales taxes. I think its time to give those options to local governments.

What do you think?

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Local governments are

Local governments are understandably screaming for more funding options. We in the GA need to listen carefully to what they're saying. But we need to tread carefully. Some counties have a solid property tax base from which to draw funding. For many rural counties, however, this is not the case.

When evaluating options, I will carefully look to see if the proposal is fair. For example, we cannot allow counties to meet all their needs from an increase in a regressive tax like the sales tax.

Another potentially big piece of the puzzle is the possibility of easing the burden of Medicaid on counties. NC is the only state where counties bear such a large part of Medicaid costs. If the state assumed part of this burden, counties might be able to afford to construct the schools they need.

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Thanks, Rep. Martin

Some of us bedroom community counties need relief on this issue very soon. We're wasting so much tax revenue on bond service debt and it seems we're not looking to the future consequences of that wasted money. We regular citizens of NC are counting on the Lege to wade through the noise from Realtors and Home Builders and do the right thing for us.

Thanks for your care on the matter!

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What Percentages?

"... the bill will require utilities to get a percentage of their energy from renewable sources."

Are they anywhere near MN's proposed
- 25 percent of the state's power come from renewable sources by the year 2025.

And if not, why not?

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great question

HB 77 would require 20%, with around 10% coming from renewable sources and up to 10% from efficiency.

So, why not require 25% in NC? Each state differs in energy needs and in the feasibility of renewable energy sources. Because of geography, some states can hope to get more energy from wind and hydroelectirc,and solar. Also, states differ in their existing energy generation capacity.

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Efficiency

"...10% coming from renewable sources and up to 10% from efficiency."

In terms of efficiency - is this referring to the producers or the consumers of power? Wouldn't better efficiency be an achievable goal regardless of the source?

How does the 10% from 'efficency' factor into the goal of 20% from renewable sources?

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efficiency

Up to half of the 20% requirement can be met through efficiency measure. You are absolutely correct that efficiency is an achievable goal regardless of any paring with renewable energy.

If you're having trouble sleeping and really want to get into the weeds on this topic, go to the Utilities Commission website and check out A Study of the Feasibility of Energy Efficiency as an Eligible Resource as Part of a Renewable Portfolio Standard for the State of North Carolina

Oh oh.

He's hooked. And he's learning HTML.

Now we're done for.

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seriously

we have him checking back with us multiple times, and we have ed ridpath posting in multiple threads.

the world is falling apart.

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I Will Go Look -

but I've been the the Utilities Commission website before. They talk funny. (er - write funny)
Do any of them write in plain English?

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In my short life so far as a blogger

I have seen a number of progressive candidates and legislators blog. Some even say that blogging will change the face of politics. The people that do blog almost always have something positive to say about any and all blogging politicians. My question is how do you see blogging communities? A resource for campaign contributions, a voice to use to get your message out, a sounding board for new ideas....?

No matter that patriotism is too often the refuge of scoundrels. Dissent, rebellion, and all-around hell-raising remain the true duty of patriots.

Progressive Discussions

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BlueSouth had a great post on this issue just this AM

I think the blogging community serves as a way for me to build relationships over distances. It lets me get to know people and lets people get to know me.

In my NC House district in Raleigh, I've knocked on thousands and thousands of doors. Nothing beats face to face contact. But, I can't knock on doors every day. And, this kind of face to face contact gets tough to do in areas bigger than a state legislative district.

How else but in a live blog, for example, could I get this kind of input from folks across NC, while simultaneously eating breakfast and getting to kiss my daughter good bye as she leaves for preschool. Talk about multitasking!

Ah yes.

You've hit the nail on the head. This is an amazing technology for having real interactions with real people - that's convenient, easy and profoundly democratic. I hope you'll encourage your colleagues to consider doing the same when they have an important issue to discuss.

Speaking of which . . .

The situation for veterans care at the federal level seems to be a neverending nightmare. What can we do in North Carolina to help mitigate the disastrous impacts of the Bush administration's mismanagement? Are there specific bills in play that we should be getting familiar with?

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Veterans

Yeah, I just don't understand how you can start a war while at the same time proposing cuts to the VA that will have to care for the thousands of new veterans.

Since the Bush Administration has violated its duty to those of us who have served, we at the state level need to take up the slack. A few months ago Governor Easley convened a summit for returning war veterans. One of the results of this summit is a proposal to boost mental health services for returning veterans. I am especially pleased that this program will emphasize reaching out to the thousands of NC veterans who do not live near our active duty installations. We have even less access to these kind of services than the folks on active duty do. This program is in the Governor's proposed budget and I will be fighting hard to make sure it is in our budget.

Military life brings some obvious hardships: physical risk, separation from family, etc. But, anyone who has served knows that military life brings a host of smaller burdens that, collectively, make life tough at times. I'm working this session to do what I can to remove as many of these burdens as possible. Look out for bills, for example, to address military child custody issues and reservist re-employment rights. I'll also be filing a bill to ease the burden on small businesses whose employees are called to active duty. And, I'm working with Attorney General Roy Cooper on a bill that will fund a consumer protection specialist position in his office to protect servicemembers and thier families from falling prey to scams.

Excellent. Thanks.

We have a lot of veterans here at BlueNC - include a surprising number of women veterans. I'm really glad to read about the specific steps you're taking on this front.

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One of the toughest soldiers

I've ever served with is a woman. I kept in shape while in Afghanistan, but her PT routine consisted of 8 mile runs with a flak jacket on! I hiked through a few mile of Afghan mountains with her in full combat load, and she didn't break a sweat.

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speaking of which

where the hell is Dan?

Boy, those would be great

Boy, those would be great issues to challenge Liddy Dole on.

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wow

that is a lot of stuff. some great goals there. please come back to us if you have trouble getting any of them through. we can make quite a lot of noise sometimes.

I know that there have been movements to challenge the federal government over unfunded mandates such as Every Child Left Behind, but is there something similar we can do to demand the Federal government take action? What I mean is that while I applaud what this state has done to help veterans, the funds for those programs shouldnt have to come out of our budget.

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let me add

this link

Discriminating against someone because of their military obligations is illegal, but 51 percent of employers who responded to an informal, online poll by Workforce Management magazine said they would not hire an employee who is a citizen-soldier “if they knew that a military reservist or National Guard member could be called up and taken away from their job for an indeterminate amount of time,” as the question was posed.

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That news piece is exactly what got me started

on the idea for the bill. Discrimination against reservists, as it notes, is already illegal. Businesses don't want to discriminate, but when you've had an employee called up, say 2-3 times since 9/11, your business is going to suffer. So, I hope the bill I'll be introducing soon will ease the burden on small business while also giving them an incentive to hire reservists.

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Grier

I know what you are talking about. My daughter goes to the same preschool. We see you there ocassionaly. Right now I'm not with her but I am in a room with 75 people at a conference in Wilmington discussing school construction.

And I hope you're

advocating for an END to factory schooling. The size of schools has gone far beyond the point of diminishing returns, making it almost impossible to site new schools without clearing enough land to plop down an OLF!

The solution lies somewhere between the

small charter school and the factory school. Oh...kinda like the schools when we grew up.

Robin Hayes lied. Nobody died, but thousands of folks lost their jobs.

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What she said

n/t

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Local Revenue Options

Local revenue options are an immediate necessary but temporary solution. We need a broader tax base, not necessarily to increase revenue but to provide it when we need it and at a reliable rate without volatility.

Small schools cost more, yet even today reports are that Mike Easley is REDUCING the amount of the already small stream of lottery money going to school construction.

There is more talk about small schools than action. Small academies within larger schools seem to be a workable compromise. I certainly advocate for smaller schools.

Grier has there been any

Grier has there been any ideas passed around the GA regarding pushing non-utility businesses to seek alternative energy sources. I think about all the baren rooftops sitting around NC, collecting sunlight and making it harded to cool our buildings. I've thought a great deal about it as we just had the new Costco go up in our beloved district. A very socially responsibe company, with a huge flat roof. I believe the city of Chicago has put in place some regulations that would pressure businesses into renewable energy.

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Solar

I think solar is great for peak shaving when it's hot and for reducing the size of infrastructure needed for distribution.

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One of the keys to this

is to make it easier for non-utility businesses and residences to sell power back into the grid. This is something that we need to do in NC.

Is that in the RPS bill?

n/t

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It is not.

The utilities traditionally object to allowing this because it, in essence, turns every family with excess (solar, for example) energy capacity into a competitor.

I have spoken to a major solar energy company CEO who says that this, along with our existing solar tax credits and the RPS bill, is what it would take to lure him to bring many, many jobs to NC. He says many of his competitors would likely follow suit.

THIS is the kind of incentive we need more that the kind of incentive that benefits just one company.

Maybe we need one of those last minute

sneaky amendments to get this into the bill, then.

:)

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Health Care for All

Hi,
Sorry I haven't been able to participate more, getting the kids to school. But, I haven't seen any mention of Verla Insko's Health Care for All bill. Your position? Are you a cosponsor? It's not too late : )

1. 48 Million Uninsured Americans, in a system that demands it.
2. 17 Million Underinsured Americans, who use health care only when it is too late.
3. Over 250,000 Uninsured Children in North Carolina.
4. More than half of individual bankruptcy filings in NC related to medical bills, with about three-quarters of those individuals health-insured at the time they got sick.
5. A country that spends twice as much per capita on health care than other developed countries, yet ranks lower in health outcomes.
6. A system where 2/3 of health care spending is financed by public dollars, where private insurance companies announce record-breaking profits, yet 65 million go without the insurance they need to be healthy.

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I'm disappointed you waited until 8:47

to ask!

We have to find a way to ensure all North Carolinians have access to affordable health insurance. There are many proposals out there, including the Governor's. I am not yet persuaded his approach is the best way to go, but I am truly pleased that he is taking the lead on trying to address the problem.

Of course, Verla has been leading on this issue for years. I'm a co-sponsor of her High Risk Pool bill. As you know, this bill isn't the solution to the entire health care problem, but it does help some of those on the bleeding edge of the problem.

The good thing about her Health Care for All bill (at least in the form I saw it in last session) is that, though it doesn't proved a solution, it forces the state to focus on finding a solution quickly instead of engaging in the seemingly endless debate we're in now. So, I'll be signing on to it as a co-sponsor. I would've done this already, but Verla moved her office from next door to mine to another building!

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Locked Out of NC Health Choice

Health Care for all or when is comprehensive not really comprehensive?

I am very concerned that health care for all really will mean health care for all. My son and I have Tricare. Though my income qualifies him to be covered by NC Health Choice they would not enroll him because they said Tricare is comprehensive. However, there is no dental, no optical and a 20% copay for us on treatment.

In short - Tricare is not very comprehensive. In fact, the very programs that are supposed to serve us, end up limiting our access to programs that we would otherwise be eligible for. And this is not the first time.

In the past I have had and have also declined insurance coverage through my employers because it would cost more for me to use it than it would be as a value. In other words, it would cost me more while delivering less.

How can we avoid making bigger messes than we already have?

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Universal does not mean Universal

unless you fight for it. It doesn't MEAN mental health parity, it doesn't MEAN dental (and we all saw the story of the young boy that died of a cavity recently), and it might mean you get screwed if you have access to a lousy plan.

Good info, thanks.

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RPS

We are awash in biomass, a cheap source of renewable energy. Like Rodney Dangerfield, it gets little respect from the solar/wind lobby. Can you speak to biomass and ensuring markets for our changing rural economies?

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biomass is explicitly mentioned

in HB77. It will be a big part of a renewable energy solution in NC. I've met with representatives of a company that is planning on coming to NC to take advantage of the gold mine of chicken waste here. They'll be bringing good jobs, too, along with the renewable energy.

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Thanks

Let's hope it stays in the HB77. Biomass was a very contentious part of the NC Greenpower discussions.

"awash in biomass"

... but enough about the General Assembly...

heh.

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Perhaps I will amend H77

to include provisions for hot air and attach a collector to the Legislative Building. I think we produce enough while in session to meet NC's energy needs.

I'll second that amendment.

You might have just made "Under the Dome."

Good morning, Rep. Martin

School car pool duty has kept me busy this morning, so I apologize for being late. We have a blogger who is in class this morning and he (Blue South) would like to know if you would entertain the idea of running for Senate against Liddy Dole in '08. If you haven't ruled it out he's wondering if you would give it serious consideration and if so when you might make a decision.

Thank you for your service.

Robin Hayes lied. Nobody died, but thousands of folks lost their jobs.

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I am really enjoying the

opportunity I have in the NC House of Representatives to be a part of improving education, providing jobs, and improving health care. Plus, now that I have some seniority, I'm able to take the lead on veterans and environmental issues. I'd only give this up if I thought I could do more good elsewhere.

NC deserves a senator who has the independence to be more than a rubber stamp for the president, regardless of party. And, we deserve a senator with the credibility on defense issues to stand up to a president who makes disastrous military decisions. In the NC Democratic Party we certainly have many people with these traits.

Thank you for answering....

NC deserves a senator who has the independence to be more than a rubber stamp for the president, regardless of party. And, we deserve a senator with the credibility on defense issues to stand up to a president who makes disastrous military decisions. In the NC Democratic Party we certainly have many people with these traits.

.....and you're one of them.

We all appreciate your service to our country, and our state. I look forward to watching you over the next couple of years. You should know though, you would probably have quite a few folks getting your back should you choose to seek higher office.

Robin Hayes lied. Nobody died, but thousands of folks lost their jobs.

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Thanks for asking

I had to try didnt I?

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Gotta Go - Thanks grier.

Gotta Go - Thanks grier.

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Tax base

We have a narrow tax base in NC and it gets narrower with every Dell and Google.

A broader tax base could solve a lot of our funding problems by providing a less volatile revenue stream allowing for reductions in the sales tax rates and income tax rates.

Will we see revenue reform this session?

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NC needs to move its revenue generation into the 21st century.

Even the latter half of the 20th century would be acceptable. But, I am not certain we in the GA are equipped to resolve this issue without a prod from an external source. Any attempt to reform the system would be difficult. Even "revenue neutral" reforms could fail due to fears the reforms would be perceived as tax increases. Also, when you open up the tax structure to a major overhaul, every special interest in the state will seize the opportunity for tax breaks. So, you run the risk of ending up with a system that is actually worse.

In spite of these pitfalls, this reform needs to get done.

Blue South would also like to know

How many of your colleagues blog or know about blogs? Why do you read BlueNC?

My question: Does Rep. Drew Saunders have his email turned on? (You really don't have to answer that)

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Is it true

Is it true that some technologically challenged legislators carry emergency single button cell phones programmed to dial Rufus Edmisten?

Just kidding.

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We're getting better.

My seatmate is a grandmother, yet she has a Treo that she uses to sync to her legislative calendar on her laptop.

But, most legislators still use "bill books" with paper versions of bills rather than using laptops to read the bills "in electrons".

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are those the same

legislators who complained about mandatory treasurer training for their campaigns but who also complained about how complicated campaign law is?

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I heard they were programmed

on the right side of the aisle to call Art Pope . . . and that the button was a dollar sign.

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Not too many blog, but many know

about them. I know Pricey Harrison has blogged in the past. When I mentioned to a few colleagues I would be live blogging on BlueNC, I was pleasantly surprised how many knew of the site.

I read BlueNC for a variety of reasons. It provides a depth of coverage on state politics (slightly biased towards Democrats!) that traditional media does not. Some print and broadcast journalists are starting to do a nice job filling this void with their own blogs, however.

I also found BlueNC to be one of the best sources of news on the Larry Kissell campaign. Since I'm not in that district (being ably represented by Brad Miller) it was tough to get coverage of that race.

I'm not biased toward Democrats

I'm biased toward sanity. Dems just happen to have more of it.

Another thing about blogging - at BlueNC anyway - is the fact that it's a public conversation. Yeah there's a little bit of behind the scenes, but not much.

Thanks for the nice words, Grier.

This is fun.

Yeah...but most behind the scenes

involves peer review (like the post I asked you to look over today before I posted) or BlueNC WoW planning group.

Even what little communication the admins/fp team has is for future planning of BlueNC. The "overthrow the gub'ment" planning is all done here out in the open. ;)

Robin Hayes lied. Nobody died, but thousands of folks lost their jobs.

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in Brad's district

so if we get him to run then i can draft either you OR rep ross to run for his seat. sweet.

(just kidding...or am i?)

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you dont have to respond

to that one.

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Blue South also wanted to know

As a veteran of the war in Afghanistan, what are your feelings on the war in Iraq and what do you think of the CIA rendition program?

Robin Hayes lied. Nobody died, but thousands of folks lost their jobs.

Grier - sorry I'm late

Hope you are still here. Work called way too early this morning.

Couldyou speak to what, if any, difficulty the rural/urban divide in the GA poses for transit funding for areas like the Triangle? How are you working with rural legislators to help them comprehend the enormity of the transit challenges faced by places like Raleigh and Charlotte?

"85% of Republicans are Democrats who don't know what's going on." -Robert Kennedy, Jr.

Thank you DFL.....I was trying to pose that question

without sounding like I was whining. Charlotte has horrible transportation/traffic/mass transit/roads issues.

It's just very noticeable as

It's just very noticeable as you tool down 64 through the Alligator Refuge or on any number of beautiful four lane roads in various far-flung parts of the state that someobody there has a whol lot more clout with the BOT than we seem to have.

"85% of Republicans are Democrats who don't know what's going on." -Robert Kennedy, Jr.

Yup...there are some awful purty roads

that will be under water in 50 years. :)

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The thing I try to remember

when I'm sitting in Triangle traffic is that many parts of the state have transportation issues. However, by any measure, our urban areas do not receive a proportionate share of transportation funding. At the same time, our rural areas are experiencing tough times. Transportation improvements can bring along much needed jobs and business.

This is absolutely true

however, roads alone will not attract industry/business. We have to do something about retraining the jobless textile workers who live in these rural areas. Attractive transportation options alone will not attract business/industry. It also takes an educated workforce.

That was a very diplomatic answer, though. :)

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I agree completely. And I think Robert P would add

that affordable quality health care can be a nice lure for development.

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All of those things would require that NC lead.

We don't seem to like the idea of that. As long as we're doing better than South Carolina, Mississippi, and Alabama we seem to be happy.

It's going to take a major change for North Carolinians to realize they DESERVE better.

Anglico Admin

I suspect Representative Martin has a busy day ahead, so don't be surprised when he has to drop off. I have asked him to circle back later, and maybe over the weekend, in case there are questions to mop up.

In any event, I want to officially thank Grier for spending time with us this morning. It takes a person of character to embrace the free-for-all that is the blogosphere.

I also want to thank the BlueNC community for being so gracious and engaging. It's my hope we'll be doing a lot more of this in the months and years ahead.

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Thanks Grier

Hope to see you at the preschool (and the coffee shop).

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I look forward to it!

Though my back still hurts from pulling weeds at the last preschool workday.

Thank you, Grier

You are now an official pro at this. Seriously, thank you for giving us your time.

Robin Hayes lied. Nobody died, but thousands of folks lost their jobs.

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Thanks, Representative Martin!

For visiting with us today. I do hope you can come back and answer some of the questions that may have slipped by.

I'd really like to know if there is a way around my Locked Out of NC Health Choice problem.

Thanks once again!

Plus I forgot to ask about the NO OLF fight

I hope you'll plan to co-sponsor the bill rejecting the Navy's plans for an OLF at Site C. I know it's under development, but hasn't hit the big time yet.

Man, you are so fired from the No OLF spokesperson job

:)

Robin Hayes lied. Nobody died, but thousands of folks lost their jobs.

Ummmm

Some of the NO OLF grandmothers would be happy for me to be fired. I heard they don't approve of my colorful language anyway.

I just wish they'd get grand-mama mad themselves.

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What Do They Expect?

When former Navy takes on the Navy?

The phrase'swear like a sailor' didn't come out of thin air. ;)

Granny needs to get her game on

Your "language" gets this issue noticed and publicized beyond previous efforts. You pushed Perdue to come out with her statement before the SEIS was released. I don't think she would have bothered otherwise.

I'm getting ready to put up a numbers post today. Your OLF efforts have brought in more new registered users than any series the past two months and they aren't all grandmothers from Washington County.

Robin Hayes lied. Nobody died, but thousands of folks lost their jobs.

Sorry I missed this, but

I had to say the 'grand-mama mad' line brings visions of blue hairs swinging umbrellas. Love it!

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No problem

Due to a preponderance of migratory comments normal patterns have been adjusted to reflect previously stated positions.

If a bird dies at an OLF would it be a "carrier" pigeon?

That is just to freakin funny!

OMG, if the navy has its way, the tundra swans, snow geese and ducks of washington/beaufort counties will go the way of the carrier pigeon and the dodo bird!

and look, only 3 little words, the rest of that sentince is woppin 50cent words. Greg, u a lawyer?

gregflynn's picture

I am not a laywer...

...but I play one on YouTube, which is where I will be announcing my plans for a helium balloon and testing facility in Washington County just upwind of site C and just as soon as I nail down $240 million in tax incentives.

I sure hope

Rep. Martin picks up the NO OLF banner. Wish I had access to a puter at 8 am, but work wont let me even use a phone! Talk about oppressing the people! Anyways, Mr. Grier, pls review the links associtated with this NO OLF struggle and support all of NE NC with assisting in this bill to reject the Navy's plan to place an OLF in our state. There is enough information at that site to at least question why is the Navy pressing so hard for this thing?

For the very fact that the Navy will not treat us the same as the people of VA should be reason enough to stop this thing.

momoaizo's picture

Thank you Rep. Martin

Hope this means that you'll be visiting us often!

No matter that patriotism is too often the refuge of scoundrels. Dissent, rebellion, and all-around hell-raising remain the true duty of patriots.

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Grier Martin's picture

Thanks to everyone for the great input anf for the opportunity.

I'm headed off to work, but will check back to respond to any further posts.

Thank you!

This was a great way to start the day. Hope you'll consider BlueNC your home away from home.

Thank you!

This really is a wonderful way to start the morning. Great ideas/answers.

Robin Hayes lied. Nobody died, but thousands of folks lost their jobs.

Ed Ridpath's picture

My role model!

Grier,

This was a great session and showed both the power of this medium and the power of your convictions. I'm looking forward to more blogging myself during this campaign and to proudly serving with you in the next term.

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Ed Ridpath
www.EdRidpath.com

Blue South's picture

I said it to Grier

And I will say it to you. Let us know how we can help. ((other than telling us your opponents name haha))
Draft Brad Miller -- NC Sen ActBlue :::Petition

Rep. Martin, two questions

1. I know us greener types want to see the 20% REPS bill pass, of which you are a primary sponsor. I have a feeling we will have to take the compromise, but that it is not a done deal now that the NCUC has approved only one new coal plant at Cliffside. What are the chances of us getting a 20% REPS bill through the Legislature?

2. This is the fun one. Your name has been mentioned as an 'interested party' if none of the big dogs run against Dole. I personally don't see them doing so (Easley has said no and I don't think it wise for any of our Democratic Congressman to give up a seat in the majority to run in this 'winnable' race). Are you truly an 'intersted party' and what will it take to beat Liddy Dole?

Grier Martin's picture

It's way too early to say

what the percentage REPS will be. But, 20% is doable in NC and would really benefit our environment, health, and economy. It is possible the REPS standard will be part of a bigger picture energy bill. But, these issues are swirling around in a mix that leaves the final result unclear. So, its a great time to let your senator and representative know your thoughts.

With regard to your second question, let me stick by my answer