More Hypocrisy on Universal Health Care

Another informative email list that I belong to is the "Quote of the Day" from the Physicians for a National Health Plan, of which Health Care for All NC is the North Carolina chapter. I'm going to post the highlights of today's Quote of the Day, which shows the full hypocrisy of the health care industry in action.

The Quote of the Day for October 31, 2007 was from a Modern Healthcare article, "Universal healthcare crosses the partisan divide," which mentioned that many attendees at the meeting of the Health Industry Group Purchasing Association seemed to believe that, "Like it or not, within the next few years the U.S. is going to have a nationwide, single-payer system." Following is a response to that article, and two responses to the response.

...While I wholeheartedly agree that we need to provide every American with access to quality healthcare coverage, I cannot and will not believe that it will come from a government-run model...

Under a single-payer system, the government would hold a monopoly over coverage, offering a one-size-fits-all insurance plan. So when the government decides to reduce or deny funding for treatments determined to be too costly, an individual has to forgo potential life-saving treatments, or finance them out-of-pocket. ...

No one is denying the need for healthcare reform or the moral imperative of providing healthcare access to all Americans; but I absolutely disagree with the idea that we can only accomplish these things through a single-payer system. We need to consider alternative healthcare reform solutions, such as free-market reform, and just say no to single-payer.

Janet Trautwein
Chief executive officer and executive vice president National Association of Health Underwriters

The response to this unbiased opinion, by PNHP.

In her comments...Janet Trautwein asserts that a single-payer system would force an individual to "forgo potential life-saving treatments, or finance them out-of- pocket." She recommends instead free-market reform, presumably
private health plans.

She has it backwards. A single-payer system would provide comprehensive benefits and would eliminate financial barriers to care. Private health plans keep their premiums competitive by reducing benefits covered and increasing out-of-pocket spending through patient cost-sharing.
...As chief executive officer and executive vice president of the National Association of Health Underwriters, she represents an industry that exists for the purpose of protecting private insurers from the costs of individuals who need healthcare. In sharp contrast, a single-payer system is designed to protect individuals with healthcare needs from the high costs of that care.

Under a single-payer system, the administrative waste of the health underwriters would be eliminated along with the waste of the private health plans. That would benefit us all.

Don McCanne, M.D.
San Juan Capistrano, Calif.
Senior health policy fellow
Physicians for a National Health Program

Getting rid of this entrenched, crooked system in North Carolina will be a battle, one that they are making easier by screwing over their "customers" more and more each year. If you want to be part of the battle, then I can't say this strongly enough, you must join Health Care for All NC. They are the only group in North Carolina pushing for single-payer health care.

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Mental health parity, check.

universal kid's care, nearly check.

affordable, access to health care, not without a battle, which starts by calling it what it is. Universal Health CARE.

One of the pitfalls of childhood is that one doesn't have to understand something to feel it. - Carlos Ruiz Zafon

Jesus Swept ticked me off. Too short. I loved the characters and then POOF it was over.
-me

This is the type of fear-mongering:

So when the government decides to reduce or deny funding for treatments determined to be too costly, an individual has to forgo potential life-saving treatments, or finance them out-of-pocket. ...

that royally pisses me off. It's the profit-driven health care industry that systematically slams the door on treatments that could make a difference in life or death, based solely on their profitability.

The statement that includes "or finance them out of pocket"

should be run up a flagpole at each governmental building and mocked by all that pass. I wonder how much out of pocket money people might be paying today for health care? I wonder how many people continue to be sick or actually become so sick they die out of fear of going to the hospital and finding out the cost will not be completely covered by their so called insurance? Some people don't want to have to sell their home and put their family out on the streets due to the costs of a hospital stay.

#$%@&^$*@!*ing greedy assholes.

North Carolina. Turning the South Blue!

North Carolina. Turning the South Blue!

Isn't thet stat something like %50+ of

bankruptcies are caused by excessive out of pocket medical expenses??
Or is it foreclosures?? Somehting like that.

Person County Democrats

Environmental Defense Fund

Cell phones will be to the 21st century what tobacco was to the 20th.

From Health Care for All NC webpage:

More than half of individual bankruptcy filings in NC were related to medical bills
in 2004 with about ¾ of those the individuals health-insured at the time they got sick and
with those illnesses directly affecting over 51,000 family members in just that year. xxix
A study in 2005 found that 77 million Americans aged 19 or over had current difficulties
paying medical bills, or had accrued medical debt and 2/3 of these were going without
needed care because of this debt.xxx In 2003 in the USA we spent $6711 per capita on
health care, while the median cost for 18 other OECD nations was just zz per capita and
all of those had all of their residents covered for health care.$2958.xxxi

One of the pitfalls of childhood is that one doesn't have to understand something to feel it. - Carlos Ruiz Zafon

Jesus Swept ticked me off. Too short. I loved the characters and then POOF it was over.
-me

Thank you. That nails it very well.

So how long does it have to take before policy makers realize the stark reality behind those stats?

Person County Democrats

Environmental Defense Fund

Cell phones will be to the 21st century what tobacco was to the 20th.

Well this I know

Shuler Maybe

After reading this thread, I tried to google a handle on the numbers. The majority of results are from health care corporatists. It is very difficult to get a handle on the actual damage our system is causing. I know it from a tragic, personal experience, so I can testify, but it is very difficult to compound into rational argument. The information is stacked. Pretty amazing.

You should join the Two for Ten network.

There is lots of data to show that universal health care would work and would be a better deal.

Key Facts.

One of the pitfalls of childhood is that one doesn't have to understand something to feel it. - Carlos Ruiz Zafon

Jesus Swept ticked me off. Too short. I loved the characters and then POOF it was over.
-me

Key Facts

Shuler Maybe

Thanks Robert.