NALF Fentress operations to increase
Submitted by parmea on Tue, 10/30/2007 - 5:13pm
Frontpaged by Anglico
From NAS Oceana website:
flight ops at Oceana and Fentress
NAS Oceana & NALF Fentress are 24-Hour airfields, operating seven days a week.
Community Concerns Hotline: 433-2162. This is the only phone line that is recorded and forwarded to personnel who are knowledgeable about the data collection required for us to investigate concerns.
NOTE: Your Concern will not change the flight pattern of current operations or change the hours we are operating. Flight Operations at Oceana Naval Air Station and Fentress Naval Auxillary Landing Field are conducted around the clock seven days a week. The airspace that Oceana operates in covers a 4.3 mile radius and like civilian aircraft, military planes are not limited to where they can fly.
Update October 17, 2007:
Flight Operations at Naval Air Station Oceana and Naval Auxiliary Landing Field Fentress in Chesapeake will increase considerably during the fourth week of October (October 22- 26) as two Carrier Air Wings consisting of seven Oceana based squadrons and four Norfolk based squadrons prepare for deployment on board their respective aircraft carriers.
The increase in both day and night flight operations will focus primarily on Field Carrier Landing Practice (FCLP). These FCLP events will be conducted at both NALF Fentress and NAS Oceana during this period due the large number of squadrons preparing for their upcoming carrier based operations.
Whoooooooooooaa, wait a minute here, the Navy says they cannot do this. They cannot do 2 fleet squadrons at one time, it would wreck havoc, sheep and goats, cats and dogs would be sleeping with each other before that could be accomplished. They are doing two air wings in 5 days? What? The Navy has been telling us it takes 2 weeks to perform this training and here they are doing it in 5 days.
Just more proof that one hand of the Navy has no clue what the other is doing. That one part of the Navy is attempting to distort the requirements and one hand is just doing what needs to be done to perform the mission.
Just what is the true requirements .... it appears this question cannot be answered with the documentation found in the NEPA documentation the Navy has presented us. This also shows were the NEPA documentation does not follow real world training requirements.
Too bad the NEPA process is suppose to be a representation of the impacts associated with the decision in question.
The Navy lying? How could that be?
Sounds like Navy's up to business as usual.
Do good. Be nice. Have fun.
Navy drops bomb
By accident. How cool is that?
Do good. Be nice. Have fun.
yet the Navy will not
force those people who live under the flight path in Virginia Beach to leave but it is a requirement here in North Carolina because it is unsafe! Go figure.
Does the Navy care about the people near them? Nope. That bomb could just as easly fallen onto a house, school or other location were people gather. That is why they have AICUZ zones and why living or anything that close to an airfield is considered incompatible.
With that in place, the zone around Oceana must be cleared out because of the encroachment dangers Virginia Beach allowed. If they are not worried about the safety of those people living near Oceana today, the same will hold true toward us. They will not care.
My son is in the Navy now and he assures me that
everything that they have ever told him has been above board and completely, 100% accurate at all times.
Due to this, he cannot wait to get out, get a job in the civilian world and be lied to constantly by corporate America.
North Carolina. Turning the South Blue!
North Carolina. Turning the South Blue!
If he worked for me
that would be a true statement, well except for the time I would have him cleaning the mast of the ship cause it had to much salt spray on it. or maybe doing a little bit of bilge diving in preparation for some very important inspection.
Naaa, we never ever came up with silly things and requirements just for the fun of it.
Accurate???? heck yea. His Chief is never wrong. It might be that your son did not interpret his Chief correctly, but the Chief is always correct!
A few years after he gets out, he will look back at the guys he worked with and wish his new fellow workers were as good.
guess that is a minor bias on my part.
I completely agree and have been telling him the same.
I told him, David, when you get out in the real world, they are going to expect results!
Not to mention, I know he is having fun and will look back at how much fun it was when he puts a few years between the Navy and Corporate World.
North Carolina. Turning the South Blue!
North Carolina. Turning the South Blue!
Sorry folks
looks like another example of Navy confusion at work.
Above link is accurate but only goes for last week. This week has not been updated by the Navy on their own website. However they told Virginia Pilot they would be flying this week. What this shows me is even for the community they are suppose to be partnering with, the Navy will not tell whole story.
The Navy had to have known that these planes would require two weeks to perform this training, but did the Navy inform folks? does not appear so. This is just an example of the information the Navy provides to the public.
What else it shows is the Navy does not train on weekends as this training was scheduled for last week and this week. The Navy broke up the training between the two weeks, at least by these articles as originally posted and now with this press release.
Navy jets will be practicing this week at Fentress, Oceana
This is the kind of misdirection etc
you find with the Navy. With this, it makes me look like either a dofus or someone who is only trying to report harmful things concerning the Navy. That is not my intention. By posting this additional information, I hope it shows that I try to give the most accurate information I can.
It just makes it extremely difficult to have credibility when information is presented in two different sources about the same event but the facts are slightly altered.
If I was to confront the Navy about only needing 5 days, they would say "NO, we did require 2 weeks, we flew last week and this week." The did present the data, its just all over the place and the Navy makes people hunt for it.
This entire OLF process has been like this. Chasing the Navy's intentions and changing requirements. Depending on who you talk to and what part of the pie they know, you will get different information that is close to where you will accept the data, make a connection between the two stories, then find out later that the two people were talking about two different but close scenarios based on their interpretation of the question you posed.
Sorry for the rant....just late, I am tired and I do not like to cry wolf or appear to do so. I like to give good information and not look like I am half-assing data.