Not that there's anything wrong with that
It's been interesting to sit back and watch the bullshit fly in the wake of Kay Hagan's untimely recruitment into the US Senate primary. Not only has the story hit the national news, it has reverberated like a hand-grenade in the blogosphere.
Thinking that I may have gotten too close to the issue, I went in search of a more seasoned voice to clarify my thinking. That's when I found this posting by Bob Geary a veteran journalist who has covered North Carolina politics longer than many of our readers have been alive. His analysis resonated with me:
To say the least, we’re in a very teachable time on gay rights here in North Carolina:
Today, state Sen. Kay Hagan announced that she’s a candidate for the Democratic U.S. Senate nomination. The fact that the only other announced candidate, Jim Neal, is gay has absolutely nothing to do with her decision, Hagan told the Associated Press. [AP: Hagan said investment banker Jim Neal’s (D) entry into the race wasn’t a factor in her decision.] Really? Then why did Hagan announce three weeks ago that she would not be running?
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Gay rights issues are tough for Democrats. Granted. Stipulated. So, too, were civil rights issues, womens issues, environmental issues, union issues. If they weren’t tough, they wouldn’t be issues. And if they weren’t issues, the party of the status quo — the aptly nicknamed Grand Old Party — could handle them just fine. But since they are, the supposed party of change, the Democratic Party, must grapple with them. Meaning, I would think, figure out how to move them forward — more rights, better working conditions, cleaner air, etcetera — and avoid falling backward.
But notice, now, what’s happened in the case of the Democratic Senate nomination. It’s a most-likely Democratic year ahead in ‘08, and maybe even a Democratic-blowout year, so Republican incumbent Liddy Dole should be vulnerable (the Democratic thinking goes). But for various reasons, all of the party’s “strongest” possible candidates — Mike Easley, Roy Cooper, Brad Miller, Grier Martin, and yes, Kay Hagan — take themselves out of the race. No one is challenging Dole. So come October, very late in the game as Senate elections go, it must be said, a Chapel Hill investment banker named Jim Neal gets in the race. He’s a Democrat. Raised money for Kerry, Wes Clark, and Erskine Bowles in ‘04. Has good bidness credentials. Maybe isn’t an A-List candidate, but he looks good, sounds smart, and if it’s a blowout year, he could pull an upset. Or so it’s said, until a few days later when Mr. Neal let’s it be known, in a tone as matter-of-fact as if he was announcing his eye color, that yes, indeed, he is gay.
Well, uh, oh. Gay? Not that there’s anything wrong with that, in the immortal words of “Seinfeld,” but Democratic leaders now go bullsh*t and start dialing frantically dialing around to anyone and everyone who isn’t gay to get in the race before finally convincing Hagan to change her mind. Now I don’t know if Neal would’ve run anyway if Hagan or Miller or Mike Easley had already announced — maybe he would’ve, and it wouldn’t have been such a huge deal that he’s gay and everybody could’ve relaxed about it and heard what the man has to say about the other issues of the day. Some Democrats are straight and some are gay, would be the takeaway, which is not news to anybody, hopefully.
But now, by its bungling, the Democratic party has revealed that it wants gay votes but not gay candidates, which pisses gay folks off about like it would if we substituted the words “black” or “female” for gay in that statement. Sure, we’re for gay rights, just not too many of ‘em — is the message; and if that’s not what the party intended, that’s what coming across nonetheless.
I understand the instinct of many BlueNC readers to give Hagan and the Democratic Party the benefit of the doubt, and I've tried hard to do that myself. But you know what? I can't quite get there.
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No need to fan this fire
I just wanted to get my thoughts down . . . for the record, so to speak.
And please go read the rest of Bob's posting. He does a good job tying the issue into the Obamadrama going on right now as well.
Obamadrama
I haven't heard that one. I just love you....even if you didn't make that up yourownself.
I'm finding it hard to give Hagan the benefit of the doubt. Sometimes things are just what they look like.
I'm supporting Jim Neal and not just because he was first to commit, but because I love his attitude toward the crap he could take because he is gay. It was like, "Oh, Please. Like I haven't heard this one before." He's ready for it. He can cut it off at the knees. It isn't like it is some big secret. That takes all the bite out of it. Seriously, NC Republicans will have a hard time making hay out of Jim Neal's homosexuality after all the sexcapades they've had the past year or so.
His Brer Rabbit/briar patch comment just makes me smile. His attitude reeks of courage. Jim Neal will make an amazing senator.
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No benefit
no doubt, and no quarter given. I don't wish Ms. Hagan ill at all.
but this says it all.
Be the change you wish to see in the world. --Gandhi
I agree.
That's definitely the case, I think, and I truly believe that Jim Neal can win in North Carolina. Yes, it's gonna be tough, but we knew that once Gov. Easley declined to run, we weren't going to have a cakewalk getting rid of Liddy Dole. Jim Neal's a fresh face for North Carolina, someone who's worked for progressive candidates in the past, and has strong business credentials -- what's not to love?
So he's gay, who cares? How does that effect his ability to be a much better senator than Liddy Dole could ever hope to be? Oh, that's right, it doesn't.
It's time we stopped clinging to the past and moved forward -- for real. The Democratic Party is supposed to be the party of progress, but it's time Democrats did more than just talk and take some action.
Party loyalty, like all loyalty, is dangerous. Blind support is just dumb. It's time people made up their minds on their own without the big shots telling everyone what they should think.
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I've been trying hard not to feel badly about Hagan, too
So, it isn't only Robert who is saying this . . . Where's isabelladonna?
This is all sad on one level but then again, it's the truth. As a party we're more racist, sexist, and homophobic than we care to admit. How can we move forward if we keep saying we're for civil rights but we don't live that way as a party? Many Democratic officials in North Carolina are blatantly not for gay rights or women's rights and they sure act like the 60s civil rights movement never happened. And they're arrogant about it and blatantly nasty to anyone who thinks Democracy should start within the party.
I have written about this quite a bit over at Scru Hoo in hopes that I could shame certain Western North Carolina Democrats to at least pretend not to despise women, blacks, and gays. But now I can see that we need to have this discussion statewide. Are we for civil rights or are we not?
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I think it all depends on who you mean by "we"
"If boiling people alive best served the interests of the American people, then it would neither be moral or immoral." Max Borders, Civitas Institute
Aye, there's the rub
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The N&O: part of the problem
In this story about the Hagan announcement, the N&O print version features head-shots of Hagan and Dole. If you follow the link, you can see the online equivalent by clicking on "more photos."
So let me get his straight. Kay Hagan is running against Jim Neal for the Democratic primary and the News and Observer shows the race (visually) as a contest between Hagan and Dole?
Unbelievable.
It is unbelievable. Yet, it fits into their world view at the
N&O. Or, at least the world view that they plan to push off on the rest of their readership.
Kay Hagan has been a very good State Senator from our area here in Greensboro, and I will be happy to vote for her in the general if she gets the Democratic nomination. However, I will be working to make sure Jim Neal receives that nomination in the primary, as from what I've gathered from his statements at this point, I believe he will be a very progressive Senator, and that is where my interest lies. More progressive Democrats means better government.
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