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The scary truth about Art Pope

Not to diminish anyone's POV on Art Pope, but IMHO

Art Pope is one of the best strategic political minds in the country. His network didn't evolve over a couple of election cycles; he took a long-term view decades ago and went for the jugular in 2010 when the national political climate was ripe, his infrastructure was solid, political capital was cost-effective (state- level expenditures leveraged nationally, tax-advantaged loopholes) and the stakes were high (redistricting).

As with operatives like Karl Rove, there's far more to be gained by learning from Art Pope's tactics than excoriating him as the bogeyman.

Republicans are better- by far- at messaging and execution. As Drew Westen stated the case in his searing NY Times editorial, he has no idea what the president and by extension the party he leads- stands for on any issue. That's not a new challenge for the Democratic Party "leadership".

You give him too much credit

There's no magic or brilliance behind the beady eyes of Art Pope. Yes, he's a smart guy with a long term view.

But smart guys are a dime a dozen.

The only thing that makes Art Pope effective dangerous is a ton of daddy's money and a willingness to spend it.

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We are not amused.

You know, I've caught myself being jealous

of what you describe.

Republicans are better- by far- at messaging and execution

but I've come to realize that the ruthlessness that it takes to win the way Republicans do is only because they are gaming the political system for the end result of lining their own pockets (by a few well funded people).

Democrats will just never have that kind of gall to win in the zero sum game that is being played now. oh, and I'm not sure I'd remain a Democrat if they did.

Progressives are the true conservatives.

How do we win?

I am afraid that a massive storm is brewing and it doesn't look favorable for Democrats from the national level down to the state. I seriously hope I am wrong with so much at stake, but this negative messaging resonates much stronger with the ignorant masses. Add in the head winds with the strict voting laws which have been put in place in many states (thankfully not this one yet) and the weak economy and there is a strong up hill battle. As much as I hate the dirty fight, is there a way to win without playing their game? This is not rhetorical I am truly asking because if there is a positive way to win I want to hear about it. I just feel like the high road is a dead end in this environment. People are angry and the right has been fairly successful at painting Democrats as socialists and communists and this scares people who lack the intellect to know otherwise. Unfortunately this is a large portion of the electorate.

It's the million dollar question, literally

Karl Rove has been reported as saying he will raise a quarter of a billion dollars to defeat Obama. No matter who is the R nominee.

We can only keep shinning a hot bright light on the lies that are being spewed. Americans are sick of being lied to. We have to work to regain trust that has been so badly eroded.

Progressives are the true conservatives.

We win by staying on message,

and that message is: Republican priorities only benefit the ones who already have all the benefits.

Growth in this country (and this state) is stagnating. Not because government is too large, or too expensive, or too intrusive. Growth is stagnating because a huge amount of wealth was lost when the housing bubble popped.

Much of that wealth has been recovered/regenerated, but it's being held "in reserve" by the mega-banks, while they wait for the next big (stupid) thing to come along and replace mortgage-backed securities and derivatives.

Republicans (at least the puppetmasters, anyway) don't want the economy to recover. There are fortunes being made right now for those who have the savvy to take advantage of the situation, and the other 98% can go suck an egg.

The problem is, half of that 98% think they have a shot at sliding into that 2% zone, so they gobble up that right-wing drivel about the poor rich man being taxed to death.

The funny thing is, a lot of those folks think the lottery is a foolish waste of money, but the GOP helping them move out of their double-wide and into a McMansion is a good bet. ;)

This is exactly the problem

The problem is, half of that 98% think they have a shot at sliding into that 2% zone, so they gobble up that right-wing drivel about the poor rich man being taxed to death.

The funny thing is, a lot of those folks think the lottery is a foolish waste of money, but the GOP helping them move out of their double-wide and into a McMansion is a good bet. ;)

How do you convince these people otherwise? I've seen it time and time again. If someone attempts to counter their point they are just a commie socialist (as though the two are the same) and that is it. One word should not be able to shut a legitimate debate. The fact is they don't know how to argue the counter point so this is the only way they know how to shut it down. How do you get through to people that are that set on their position? This is what we are up against.

They believe we are just out to steal money from those that work hard. This is far from the truth. We are just tired of playing a rigged game.

Our version of the republican playbook would include

... never mentioning just "republicans"; they should forever and always be "roadblock republicans". Likewise when refering to the republicans in the NC General ASSembly they should be the Tarheel Taliban, 100% of the time, whenever a dem party official, elected rep or blogger includes the GOP in comments verbal or written.