The Navys plan to poison birds

has been found out and the Navy is now trying to do some damage control. Need to read lower half of the document. What is bad is the Navy did not read this poison aspect of this report until after folks started to question them about poison usage. Do a search of avitrol to get to the page. Again where was the QA of these documents.

Avitrol or DRC-1339 are not intended for snow geese or tundra swans, so why is this part of the Navy's conceptual BASH plan? I think the Navy presented this plan as their BASH plan. While these reports show where they will not be used what poison does the Navy intend to use on these birds to keep them out? pg 4-40 DSEIS vol. 2. To link this document is not practical, but if you wish it, down load DSEIS vol 2. "Utilization of lethal methods for wildlife control in North Carolina would require, at a minimum, a USFWS Mirgratory Bird Depredation permit and a NCWRC Special Airport Depredation permit." Seeings how the Navy did not question the use of poisons, nor did they state they would not use poisons in the DSEIS, the intention to use poisons has to be an option. To require an individual to shot 100,000 birds is not practical. A more efficient method of removing this large BASH problem must be utilized. Nor is expecting someone to drive out to the runway, and then shoot them. The birds will fly off. This is not efficeint.

Has the Navy asked these folks if they will approve this espically when 1) this plan is purposely being placed in close proximity to where a refuge that they are entrusted to protect, 2) the Navy's own documentation shows this is not needed?

Again, the contempt of the Navy to think noone would read these reports or to deduce their true intentions.

Part of this BASH plan is in response to

"a court case contending the findings of the FEIS found that the document was deficient; one area of deficiency found that the document did not adequately address BASH concerns. BASH concerns were divided into two main areas: 1) the FEIS failing to assess current BASH conditions and 2) failing to address the potential effects associated with the implementation of a BASH plan (i.e., an adaptive management plan designed to reduce BASH, either potential or realized.)"

This report itself states this

"specifically addresses BASH conditions at each proposed OLF site and provides a conceptual BASH plan for each site."

It is not intended to be the BASH plan as that is the responsibility of the Navy based on the information provided.

So did the Navy provide us with a true BASH plan? Nope, all we got was a conceptual plan. When will we get the plan? Probably after any comment period and then we will be told what poison they intend to utilize. Remember, with all these reports, the Navy says animals will become acclomated to the noise and other factors that man can throw at them. Only killing these birds will stop them from being a safety concern.

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ITA that the Navy believes that no one would read .....

their reports in their completness. I think, that they assume (yet again), that we are just ignorant. I've just quit reading books & the comics in the newspapers in replacement for reading Navy reports! :)

There was a gentleman who spoke at the Washington County hearing Wednesday evening who even put into question the Navy's mathmatical skills. It was utterly brilliant!

OOOO i wish I heard

what he was questioning. That would be to funny. Would not suprise me about their math, its suspect at best. What was he saying about their math?

A big concern I have with all these

reports that are messed up is there is so many mistakes and misleading items that noone can comment on all of them or even identify all of them.

The QA of these documents just did not happen. The Navy is continuing to just bombard us with manusha in the hopes that we will not be able to catch all the crap. Once this public hearing and comments period is over, all that crap they have presented will become unquestionable in their eyes.

"Well, noone questioned that in the public hearings and heck we gave you 60 days, vice the required 45. Not our problem." a future quote from a navy spokesman.

We need to get you on the radio

talking about this.

eeek,

Wonder how people would react to that? Just some guy in a far away county. Heck I dont even live in a town or city. Who would listen?

My house is not in the buy-out. I got into this because of how the Navy is treating my State. Folks that truely belief the Navy is not doing anything wrong will not be convinced or swayed me thinks.. I would be leary of trying to get into a conversation with folks that belief we are beyond stupid for fighting this. Guess depending on the moderator of this would determine if it would be advantagious to go on a radio.

Never done something like that, would be aprehensive about saying the wrong thing and digging a hole that others would have to try to fix...I think the movement is on autopilot and the tidal wave is growing.

Would be interesting thou.

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