What should Bev say?

Submitted by James on Wed, 10/05/2011 - 5:01pm

NCPW reports that Governor Perdue will have something to say on the anti-marriage amendment.

On a separate note, Governor Bev Perdue told reporters Wednesday that she will speak publicly about her position on the amendment later this week.

I'm sure the Governor's staff would love to hear your thoughts about what she should say.

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My recommendation

Submitted by James on Wed, 10/05/2011 - 5:07pm.

I oppose this amendment and I will work to defeat it. It is wrong. It builds discrimination into our constitution. It does not represent the kind of state most people in North Carolina want to live in. There is nothing more to say about it.

Do good. Be nice. Have fun.

James, that would be political genius.

Submitted by Carolina on Wed, 10/05/2011 - 6:50pm.

That is very well written. If that is the message and she sticks to it, I think it is less likely to pass. I think it is possible, but not easy, to hold together the different groups that are already against this.

Perdue staff: We know

Submitted by usernamehere on Wed, 10/05/2011 - 5:28pm.

Perdue's statement should be:

"I'm a damn fool for telling Rep. Bill Owens he could sell his band of votes to the GOP caucus to make sure the amendment was on the primary and not the general ballot.

I have fired former legislator Pryor Gibson from my staff for making this deal with the devil.

I beg forgiveness from voters who stood by me throughout this legislative session even as I sold them down the river.

It is absurd that I waited this long to make a statement on this issue.

I urge all North Carolinians to join Renee Ellmers and me in voting against this overly broad amendment.

I will not be running for reelection."

 

Now now

Submitted by James on Wed, 10/05/2011 - 5:41pm.

I've had my differences with the governor, but we are where we are. And where we are is in need of a chief executive who will stomp the crap out of this misguided amendment.

Do you really think Perdue was in a position to "okay" the primary ballot decision? I may be incredibly naive, but from where I sit, Republicans didn't care what she wanted and didn't need her to clear anything.

Is there a primary opponent in the wings?

Bev has nothing to lose from taking the right stands, which specifically means stands that are (1) morally correct and (2) differentiated from McCrory.

Do good. Be nice. Have fun.

Perdue has no moral authority on this issue

Submitted by usernamehere on Wed, 10/05/2011 - 6:27pm.

Even if you don't believe the truth of the Perdue camp's betrayal (it's numerically clear the House GOP didn't have the votes to pass an amendment without Democrats), then her weeks of waiting to say anything substantive about a topic she's been asked to address numerous times, well... that wipes away any doubt.

And I don't give a damn about any politician being "better than x"

There are lines not to be crossed. She has crossed it. She must be made an example of.

Etheridge went down by a slim margin because his base was angry. Perdue is cut from the same cloth, and she's going down too.

 

Not if I can help it

Submitted by James on Wed, 10/05/2011 - 6:57pm.

Nobody has moral authority about anything. All any of us has are the words that come out of our mouths. We each invent the world around us every time we speak.

Perdue hasn't crossed any lines. She can and should use her platform to speak on this issue.

That said, I hope you'll keep up the charge from the left. This is the first time I've had the chance to look reasonable by comparison!

: )

Do good. Be nice. Have fun.

Governor McCrory

Submitted by Jake Gellar-Goad on Wed, 10/05/2011 - 11:51pm.

Governor McCrory probably wouldn't veto voter suppression bills like Governor Perdue did, and Governor McCrory probably wouldn't sign into law LGBT anti-bullying bills like Governor Perdue did. And personally I don't believe she'll vote yes in May like McCrory will.

She definitely needs to come out strong against this amendment, but if a pro-voter suppression guy takes the governors mansion then this state is lost for 10 years, and the policies that avoid veto will have lasting impacts much longer than a decade.

marriage amendment

Submitted by ruffin on Wed, 10/05/2011 - 6:53pm.

Seem to recall something about letting the majority vote on the rights of a minority not being a very good idea. Can't imagine why not. Isn't that how it was handled for all the other groups? (for the terminally non-cognizant of sarcasm, this is snark)

Pangloss was wrong.

Blown Away

Submitted by crowbar317 on Wed, 10/05/2011 - 9:35pm.

Here I go walking down memory lane again, but man, from the mid 2000s until 2010 North Carolina seemed to be continually getting better and better. Democrats were controlling the leg and we elected Obama in 2008.

Aside from elections, everyone was talking about how innovative the Triangle was becoming. We seemed to be recovering a bit from the mass manufacturing layoffs of the early aughts. Mass transportation and rail programs were discussed far more than wedge issues.

This is why I think a lot of us were pissed when some of the Democrats we helped elect decided to play it safe and either halt or reverse progress. We were on a roll and our own people were gumming up the works.

Now, when the GOP took over in 2010, I expected regression. Hell, regression is part and parcel of the GOP platform. But I never excepted massive public sector layoffs, horrendous voter suppression laws, and especially the disgusting effort to add violating civil rights to our state constitution.

I don't know what Governor Perdue should say aside from strongly condemning the amendment and all the other destructive foolishness. But I do think that the Republicans have overreached here. I also think we are a much more progressive state than we were even six or eight short years ago.

Of course we can do better, but at this point we are going to have to scratch and claw and fight just to get back to even legislatively. And I think this is a fight we can win.

Perdue to vote Against the amendment

Submitted by Jake Gellar-Goad on Fri, 10/07/2011 - 8:16pm.

"Perdue to vote against constitutional amendment on marriage"
http://www.wral.com/news/state/nccapitol/story/10234372/

"Too many people are out of work, and I’ve heard from several business leaders who’ve told me that the proposed constitutional amendment will harm our state’s business climate and make it harder to grow jobs here," she said.

"I’m going to vote against the amendment, because I cannot in good conscience look an unemployed man or woman in the eye and tell them that this amendment is more important than finding them a job," she added.