I'm going to vote for the person I think has the best chance of beating The Magnificent Presence. At this early stage, that person seems to be Walter Dalton.
Submitted by Anonymous on Mon, 04/02/2012 - 12:16pm.
I lean towards and away from Bob Etheridge. His name recognition has to be closest to the GOP's tool, yet I am afraid that his reaction to the "college student" stunt would torpedo any realistic chance of election.
In a general campaign against Etheridge, McCrory would need to do nothing but run that video wall-to-wall. It may not be fair, and it may not represent the real Bob Etheridge, but it is a devastating portrayal of a privileged man with big temper.
Of course, that's what so many Republicans want in an elected official, so you never know.
I don't watch much TV so I don't see ads if they're out there. Where are these people introducing themselves to the public? It makes me wish for old-fashioned stump speeches with a real stump.
Submitted by Martha Brock on Mon, 04/02/2012 - 1:41pm.
The Democratic Men's Club for Wake County meets a week from today, April 9, at the Clarion Hotel on Hillsborough Street in Raleigh. Faison and Etheridge are invited to speak. Don't know why Walter Dalton is not on the agenda, too.
Dinner cost for non-members is $20, and to make a reservation email to wakedemmen@wakedems.org by 10am next Monday.
Submitted by usernamehere on Mon, 04/02/2012 - 12:30pm.
... it comes down to viability and Etheridge's vote against DADT repeal on May 28, 2010.
I view Dalton as more viable because he is the candidate who has most recently won a statewide race (2008).
And Etheridge's May 2010 vote against DADT repeal is still tough to forgive. It was barely 2 years ago that he thought he had to vote that way. Can't support him.
Those are the 2 viable choices, so it's Dalton for me.
Being Unaffiliated, I can pick either Dem or Rep ballots to vote on. Here in Moore County, we rarely have any Dems who even run for county and NC Leg offices, much less multiples. This makes the Rep primary the de facto election for County Commissioner and NC Legislature.
So, I can vote in a primary that essentially elects all my local officials or I can help pick who will run against Myers Park Pat.
Etheridge has had a lifetime committment to supporting education in NC.
Dalton has been far too friendly to big business, as noted by the Indy below:
"Dalton calls himself a moderate, though Besse and Dellinger point to votes he's cast in the Senate that have a strong conservative tinge. Dalton's ratings from the Conservation Council of N.C., they note, have been among the lowest of any Senate Democrat. And he was one of 18 senators (including 10 Democrats) who voted against a 2001 bill banning the execution of defendants with IQs below 70...
Dalton's opponents, though, say he favored business too much when he broke with the caucus in 2001 to vote against the Easley administration's Clean Smokestacks Act when it first came to the Senate floor, saying it would be too costly for consumers. He was one of just two Senate Democrats to do so, but again, supported the final version. The landmark law forced utilities to curb emissions from coal-fired plants. Meanwhile, he supported another bill that, if enacted, would have allowed new factories to be built without first receiving air-quality permits from state environmental regulators.
He is also under fire for co-sponsoring a 2005 Republican bill calling for a constitutional referendum on the anti-gay "Defense of Marriage Amendment."
Submitted by Jake Gellar-Goad on Tue, 04/03/2012 - 9:28pm.
He is also under fire for co-sponsoring a 2005 Republican bill calling for a constitutional referendum on the anti-gay "Defense of Marriage Amendment."
Beyond that, Etheridge was also against DADT more recently too. I heard that Dalton was helpful in passing the LGBT inclusive anti-bully bill too which maybe counts for some atonement, but I don't know much about that really. Neither of them excite me much though. But considering the alternative for the General Election, I'll probably vote for whoever wins the primary.
Submitted by persondem on Thu, 04/05/2012 - 5:10pm.
Without "The video of doom" I would be somewhat conflicted between Dalton and Etheridge.
Dalton has won a statewide campaign, has no serious negatives and has some passion as a speaker. He's decent on most of the issues a democrat should care about.
Bob Etheridge gets my strong support. He has a lifetime of public service, has constantly worked for the betterment of the people of our state and nation, and is absolutely above board. With well over thirty years of service there are going to be votes that some will disagree with, whether they were cast in 1975 or 2010. But taken as a whole his record stacks up well. When he was a county commissioner he pushed for the building of consolidated high schools to deal with the realities of a poor county with a limited budget and the real possibility of the development of a segregated school system. Years later he stood up to the tea party as they hammered away and defended democratic policies and his record. And he fought them with logic and substance. When the vote came for health care reform he voted for it while others (I will not name names) crumbled and cowered away with a no vote. And in between he cast plenty of votes that we can all pick apart. But the bottom line is that he has the experience, integrate and dedication that we need to oppose a hostile General Assembly and protect education and all the other important programs they will continue to try and undermine, dismantle, and otherwise injure.
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I'm going to vote for the person I think has the best chance of beating The Magnificent Presence. At this early stage, that person seems to be Walter Dalton.
Not sure yet
I lean towards and away from Bob Etheridge. His name recognition has to be closest to the GOP's tool, yet I am afraid that his reaction to the "college student" stunt would torpedo any realistic chance of election.
Student stunt
In a general campaign against Etheridge, McCrory would need to do nothing but run that video wall-to-wall. It may not be fair, and it may not represent the real Bob Etheridge, but it is a devastating portrayal of a privileged man with big temper.
Of course, that's what so many Republicans want in an elected official, so you never know.
Where are these candidates?
I don't watch much TV so I don't see ads if they're out there. Where are these people introducing themselves to the public? It makes me wish for old-fashioned stump speeches with a real stump.
Progressives are the true conservatives.
Etheridge and Faison will address Democratic Men in Wake
The Democratic Men's Club for Wake County meets a week from today, April 9, at the Clarion Hotel on Hillsborough Street in Raleigh. Faison and Etheridge are invited to speak. Don't know why Walter Dalton is not on the agenda, too.
Dinner cost for non-members is $20, and to make a reservation email to
wakedemmen@wakedems.org by 10am next Monday.
Martha Brock
When deciding between Dalton and Etheridge
... it comes down to viability and Etheridge's vote against DADT repeal on May 28, 2010.
I view Dalton as more viable because he is the candidate who has most recently won a statewide race (2008).
And Etheridge's May 2010 vote against DADT repeal is still tough to forgive. It was barely 2 years ago that he thought he had to vote that way. Can't support him.
Those are the 2 viable choices, so it's Dalton for me.
Haven't decided which primary to vote in
Being Unaffiliated, I can pick either Dem or Rep ballots to vote on. Here in Moore County, we rarely have any Dems who even run for county and NC Leg offices, much less multiples. This makes the Rep primary the de facto election for County Commissioner and NC Legislature.
So, I can vote in a primary that essentially elects all my local officials or I can help pick who will run against Myers Park Pat.
Walter Dalton
For all of the reasons listed above.
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Vote Democratic, the ass you save may be your own.
Dalton...because I've met him and like him and his wife
and because I think Etheridge is not my kind of Democrat.
Stan Bozarth
My vote goes to Etheridge - Beware Dalton
Etheridge has had a lifetime committment to supporting education in NC.
Dalton has been far too friendly to big business, as noted by the Indy below:
"Dalton calls himself a moderate, though Besse and Dellinger point to votes he's cast in the Senate that have a strong conservative tinge. Dalton's ratings from the Conservation Council of N.C., they note, have been among the lowest of any Senate Democrat. And he was one of 18 senators (including 10 Democrats) who voted against a 2001 bill banning the execution of defendants with IQs below 70...
Dalton's opponents, though, say he favored business too much when he broke with the caucus in 2001 to vote against the Easley administration's Clean Smokestacks Act when it first came to the Senate floor, saying it would be too costly for consumers. He was one of just two Senate Democrats to do so, but again, supported the final version. The landmark law forced utilities to curb emissions from coal-fired plants. Meanwhile, he supported another bill that, if enacted, would have allowed new factories to be built without first receiving air-quality permits from state environmental regulators.
He is also under fire for co-sponsoring a 2005 Republican bill calling for a constitutional referendum on the anti-gay "Defense of Marriage Amendment."
http://www.indyweek.com/indyweek/four-democrats-line-up-for-the-lieutena...
Democrats can do better than Walter Dalton.
More recently
Etheridge was trying to do that to the whole nation more recently if I read this right:
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2006/roll378.xml
Beyond that, Etheridge was also against DADT more recently too. I heard that Dalton was helpful in passing the LGBT inclusive anti-bully bill too which maybe counts for some atonement, but I don't know much about that really. Neither of them excite me much though. But considering the alternative for the General Election, I'll probably vote for whoever wins the primary.
Definitely Dalton
Without "The video of doom" I would be somewhat conflicted between Dalton and Etheridge.
Dalton has won a statewide campaign, has no serious negatives and has some passion as a speaker. He's decent on most of the issues a democrat should care about.
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Bob Etheridge gets my strong
Bob Etheridge gets my strong support. He has a lifetime of public service, has constantly worked for the betterment of the people of our state and nation, and is absolutely above board. With well over thirty years of service there are going to be votes that some will disagree with, whether they were cast in 1975 or 2010. But taken as a whole his record stacks up well. When he was a county commissioner he pushed for the building of consolidated high schools to deal with the realities of a poor county with a limited budget and the real possibility of the development of a segregated school system. Years later he stood up to the tea party as they hammered away and defended democratic policies and his record. And he fought them with logic and substance. When the vote came for health care reform he voted for it while others (I will not name names) crumbled and cowered away with a no vote. And in between he cast plenty of votes that we can all pick apart. But the bottom line is that he has the experience, integrate and dedication that we need to oppose a hostile General Assembly and protect education and all the other important programs they will continue to try and undermine, dismantle, and otherwise injure.
I'm a moderate Democrat.