WRAL: Dem Exec. Director fired

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ALERT: Robert Dempsey, executive director of NC Democratic Party, fired http://www.wral.com/13374074 #breaking

By Kelly Gardner

RALEIGH, N.C. — After less than a year as executive director of the North Carolina Democratic Party, Robert Dempsey has been fired, multiple sources tell WRAL News.

According to those sources – some of whom talked to Dempsey – Dempsey said he was told Sunday that he's been let go.

Dempsey was installed as the party's executive director in May...

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Democratic Party chairman abruptly fires executive director

Democratic Party chairman abruptly fires executive director
Posted by John Frank on February 9, 2014
Raleigh News and Observer

Chairman Randy Voller acknowledged through a party attorney that he fired Dempsey roughly eight months after picking him for the job. Attorney David Harris declined to give a reason for the firing. “There’s really nothing more to say because it’s a personnel matter,” Harris said Sunday evening.

But whether Voller has the authority to make the move remains in question. The party’s rules suggest he needs the consent of the executive council to fire the executive director. The council has not met in recent days, though a meeting is being scheduled for this week.

Not all party leaders agree with the move. “I thought Robert was doing a fantastic job,” said Patsy Keever, the party’s 1st vice chairwoman, who essentially serves as Voller’s lieutenant.

Read more here: http://www.newsobserver.com/2014/02/09/3606950/democratic-party-chairman...

Martha Brock

Why is there a question?

NC is an "at will" employment state.

Chris Telesca
Wake County Verified Voting
http://noirvnc.blogspot.com
http://statewideirvnc.blogspot.com

That's good to know...

....now can we fire Voller?

Voller is an elected party officer...

...not an employee. Firing is not an option.

Why don't you read the NCDP Plan of Organization before you ask a question like this?

Chris Telesca
Wake County Verified Voting
http://noirvnc.blogspot.com
http://statewideirvnc.blogspot.com

What about NCDP PoO rules, Chris?

But whether Voller has the authority to make the move remains in question. The party’s rules suggest he needs the consent of the executive council to fire the executive director. The council has not met in recent days, though a meeting is being scheduled for this week.

--from the Raleigh News and Observer

I have neither the patience or the time to figure this out. You are more familiar with these rules. Did Randy Voller have the authority to fire the Executive Director without a vote of the Executive Council?

From minutes of the last meeting of the Council in November, here are some of the members for those of you who are as curious as I am:

Among those attending were Frank Deaton, Delmas Parker, Wayne Abraham, Asgod Barrantes, Matilda Phillips, Rashidul Islam, Senator Don Davis, Dr. John Hammond, Dr. Robbie Akhere, Stephanie Goslen, Jim Morgan, Jesse Goslen, Joan Dressler, Matty Lazo, Patsy Keever, Jake Quinn, Ted Benson, Senator Floyd McKissick, Gwen Wilkins, Kennis Wilkins, Ralph Rodland, Willie Fleming, Jannet Barnes, Betsy Wells, Chris Hardee, Luke Hyde, Perry Graves, Louis Duke, Emily Brown, State Chair Randy Voller, Zack Hawkins, Muriel Offerman,
Dewey Sheffield, Vinod Thomas, Mayor Chris Rey, Mayor Antonio Blue, and Melvin Williams.

Martha Brock

Why is there a question?

I can think of several reasons why there is a question, the first one being: if the Plan Of Organization calls for a specific set of circumstances to be met before x can happen, isn't that kind of important? I keep hearing about how important these rules are, until somebody decides to break them.

2nd reason: considering the outrage expressed by some over the Parmley episode, and how those sexual harassment allegations were (somehow) created/manufactured by "establishment" Democrats to ruin David Parker, those same people should be demanding answers on why this ED has been let go. Sauce for the goose, eh?

In the absence of answers on these questions, the Party will continue to fracture. Some people may want said fracture to continue, but they are a distinct minority.

It is awkward

Here is the law WakeVerifiedVoter is relating to: http://www.nclabor.com/wh/fact%20sheets/eaw.htm

Rip has an interesting question because even though firing Dempsey was well within the law, it would also be within the law for the executive committee to fire Voller if they so choose. It seems it would be a rocky road if that happens though. Is that what we want? Will that further our party?

I believe...

...the overall state of the party will become much more clear after the upcoming candidate filing period is over.

Please cite what law you are referring to?

What "law" would the NCDP Executive Committee go by to "fire" an elected party officer from an elected office that is not a job?

As an officer of the Democratic Party, I do not believe that the only reason the Party exists is to elect Democrats to public office. That is part of what we do, but it is only a means to an end.

Folks who say we should only worry about electing Democrats can never answer this simple question: what should Democrats do once elected to public office? Do they follow the party platform, do their own thing, or follow the directions of their biggest campaign donors?

For me - the reason I am ran for party office is because the Democratic Party is more than just electing people to public office. The Party exists as a way for rank and file Democrats to have a say in creating our platform, finding Democrats who believe in that party platform to run for public office, work hard to get them elected, then provide them with constant reminders of why we worked to elect them - to turn our party platform into public policy!

HK on J and Moral Mondays are a two examples. Moral Mondays are protests against the Republicans undoing all that was done in our state when it was run by Democrats. HK on J started up when Democrats leading the legislature were not doing enough.

I still feel that the party is at a crossroads. We still have a bunch of privileged folks who think they can tell the rest of the people in the Party what to do because they can write big checks with strings attached. These were the same people who were behind the limits on progressive change in NC while Democrats were in charge. Demographic changes are not running in their favor, but that's not stopping them from making a big stink about anything and everything they think will keep them on top.

And many of them aren't elected by ANYONE within the Democratic Party to run the Party.

Chris Telesca
Wake County Verified Voting
http://noirvnc.blogspot.com
http://statewideirvnc.blogspot.com

I see your point

I stand corrected on that.

How will that matter?

I'm sure you have a reason for believing that things will be more clear after the candidate filing period. How will that be a deciding factor here? Interesting.

No Help

I haven't heard of any meaningful effort by the state party to help identify and recruit candidates.

Shouldn't that be their main focus?

Yes, the Democratic Party should help

to identify and to recruit candidates. I would like to know what criteria it uses to do that, however. The only one I can see that has been used over time is that the candidate either has money or is expected to be able to raise money on his or her own.

I would ideally see some attempt to seek and promote candidates who will agree to support the issues adopted in the Party Platform. I think that, in a nutshell, is what Telesca is saying.

The reason I am happy with Clay Aiken's candidacy has less to do with his deep pockets and more to do with his story on his introductory video and how well he did it.

Martha Brock

Clay Aiken's candidacy

In most cases I would be excited about Clay Aiken's candidacy. But he is trying to run in a district that is largely republican. I know that even in that kind of district a good progressive candidate can win but it will take everything Clay can come up with in the way of money and grassroots efforts and more to make an impact there. I wish he could have run in a less republican-dominant district. He will need everything the party leadership can give him and more. And there are a lot of questions about the actual impact the democratic leadership has right now as seen by many posts right here.

I think the district is competitive

It is gerrymandered for conservatives, but I don't think it's heavily GOP. I can't find the article, but I believe I saw something recently that said that it's split more or less evenly three ways for Republican, Democratic, unaffiliated. It's an uphill battle, but I think it's doable.

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"What I see from the folks who are opposing our agenda is whining coming from losers." -- Thom Tillis

I hope you are right

I shouldn't say this but I think that if Aiken is the democratic candidate his chances will depend a lot on how successful the right will be at sneaking in his "gayness". No one would ever say that someone being gay makes a difference in how they voted, but then, no one ever says they consider race in how they vote either.

"Uphill battle" is a very good way of putting it.

It's 20-freakin-14!!! Get over the political homophobia

Who needs the Family Policy Council when "progressives" continue to post internalized homophobic BS like this?

Over a decade ago, Julia Boseman ran as an openly lesbian candidate in New Hanover County -- not a liberal bastion by any means (especially at that time).

She won. Then she won 3 NC Senate terms from the same county.

If Boseman could do that a decade ago in New Hanover, why can't Aiken run in a rapidly suburbanizing district?

Boseman certainly isn't the only openly LGBT candidate to win office outside of the liberal bastion of Orange County. There have been openly LGBT people elected in NC everywhere from Polk County (mountains) to Franklin County (piedmont) to Dare County (coast).

Just because he's gay isn't a reason to automatically vote for him, but it's also not a reason to automatically think he can't win.

 

No one is saying that

My post was not meant to say Aiken can't win. It was merely an opinion about what I feel is reality. I am sorry if I offended anyone here. I am new and have to learn what I can and can't bring up.

The NC Democratic Party is irrelevant in 2014

With the end of straight party ticket voting, the need to file as a candidate of a major party is over.

The NC Democratic party is in ridiculous disarray, but it doesn't matter.

Just file and run.

You are free from the crazy of internal party nonsense.

 

Don't candidates who are unaffiliated with a party

have to get thousands of signatures on petitions to run? See the State Board of Elections web site for the exact requirements. They are quite formidable.

Just for an example here are the requirements for a candidate running for Congress who is unaffiliated:

U.S. House offices, judicial offices, District Attorney offices, or North Carolina House or Senate offices with districts that cover more than one county: Petitions are due to the State Board of Elections by noon on the last Friday in June preceding the General Election, Friday, June 27, 2014. This petition must be signed by a number of registered voters in the congressional district equaling 4% of the total number of registered voters in the congressional district as of January 1 of the election year. No later than 5:00 p.m. on Thursday, June 12, 2014, the fifteenth day preceding the date petitions are due to be filed with the State Board of Elections, the petition pages must be submitted to the County Board of Elections office in the county where the signatures were gathered. Verification will be completed within two weeks from the date the petitions are presented.

Martha Brock